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This is literally why we have apex predators such as wolves. They help clamp down on the old and the sick so that prions (mad cow disease) does not spread to other species or humans. It cannot infect wolves.

When you kill off all the apex predators, like when Montana governor Greg Gianforte authorized the massacre of 100 wolves, you see explosions of extremely dangerous diseases and land degradation as deer damage tree roots, gardens, meadows, streams, and farms.

Not only that, but killing members of wolf packs causes their families to fall apart and everyone to scatter. That means wolves alone. Which cannot hunt pack animals which require coordination. So then they go after the easiest meal: dumbass farm animals who have zero survival instincts and whose ranchers no longer employ people to look after the herds in great enough numbers like the olden days. The cycle then perpetuates, as mad-cow contaminated soils spread and spread…

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Damn… It’s almost like we should leave mother nature the fuck alone

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The more we learn, the better it will be for all species. We’ll figure it out eventually… or die out

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Die out. Look at the weather patterns. We done fucked up.

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Eh, beg to differ. It’s our industrialist society imo.

Native Americans were shown to actually improve the ecosystems they inhabited through permaculture. We’re not doing the same practices like we should nowadays.

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Can’t infect wolves? I’m no expert here but I don’t feel like a vertebrate mammal with a brain could be completely immune to prions. Do you have any more information on that claim?

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It’s in the OP article. They haven’t found any infections yet, and it doesn’t appear to affect them. Apex predators have, prior to human intervention, always hunted the old, the young, and the sick. Mother nature appears to have found a way around apex predators all dying from disease to balance the environment.

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Afaik it’s because they naturally die before the disease becomes crippling. Or it becomes crippling around or after the normal lifespan of the animal. It doesn’t mean they aren’t affected, it means it doesn’t affect them before they would normally die…

Please don’t anthropomorphize “mother nature”. Mother nature doesn’t think, or make decisions, it is a natural progression of life and death… There is a process and a cycle to much of it, hand waving “mother nature finds a way” ignores and dismisses the reality of it, and excludes the science that helps us understand how our world actually works.

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Can’t… Infect… Wolves?

You do know that prions aren’t living things right? They don’t “infect”, they are a physical change to a compound (protein) that spreads to other similar compounds it touches. It’s not a virus, or a bacteria.

Unless wolves lack the same proteins that deer also have? Usually this is a mammal thing, not a species thing.

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I think the meaning of the word in context was clear enough.

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So far CWD is a disease that only affects members of the deer family. So wolves are not going to get it in its current form

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Yeah! Fuck deer!

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