I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I’d rather hear about things that are actually happening.

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Why would a socialist think the US Republicans are the same as the US Democrats?

Just because you disagree with both parties doesn’t mean they’re the same…

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Yes, we have one party here. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them. — Julius Nyerere

Liberal democracy is the dictatorship of the capitalist class.

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Tell me again which party I can vote for that will stop dropping bombs on other countries?

Acting like the fact that there is a difference in domestic policies of the two parties, but ignoring the fact that the foreign policies of the two are not substantially different while killing a fuck ton of people is just another way to say that killing brown people in other countries is A-Okay with you and something you don’t think should be argued about.

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I agree that there is an unfortunate bipartisan consensus on national security issues that is normalized bombings.

I would nevertheless say you can find significant differences on foreign policy. And, you can find huge huge huge differences on domestic policy, on things like respect for the rule of law, on the type of people appointed to courts, on economic policy.

So I think you raise a legitimate concern, but then you proceed to completely abuse it by trying to make that concern stand in for the whole of everything that matters about political decisions.

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So you’re saying one of them makes the world less worse, and is therefore preferable to the one that makes it more worse.

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Not when genocide is one of the agreed upon actions.

Your argument is logically an argument of harm reduction.

It fails when you’re trying to convince people that this genocide is better because the other sides genocide would be worse.

I will not vote for genocide.

No attempt to shame me and people like me for not voting for genocide will work.

Just by the by, genocide is a red line for a lot of people. Shame as a tactic for getting people to vote for your party works only up to a line.

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