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Aren’t ‘stupid’ and ‘idiot’ just even older versions of ‘retarded’ and all describe people with developmental and/or learning disabilities?

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Yep, also “dumb”, " lame " etc. These are words for disabilities which then entered common parlance as slurs.

“retarded” is actually the other way round in that it just means “slowed” - but has historically been used as an insult directed towards people with mental disabilities.

Personally I think that what’s offensive is scolding people for using the word in the correct context which prevents society from losing the association with the disabled and instead continues perpetuating that meaning even though that’s the opposite of what they claim to be trying to do

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“Retarded” definitely didn’t start out as an insult. There was a time when “mentally retarded” was what people with developmental disabilities were called by the medical establishment. My Boomer mother still uses it without malice (and is scolded by my Gen Z kids) to refer to those with cognitive disabilities because it wasn’t an insult when she was a kid. It was fully an insult when my Gen X self was growing up.

I think there may be too much white knighting for a word that no one seriously uses any more. “You can’t use that word because in the past it was a designation for the cognitively disabled.” But really “retarded” has lost any meaning other than as an insult to mean supremely stupid. It often doesn’t even refer to a person but could be an object or a situation.

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You’ve pointed out the whole problem. Only two generations ago the word “retarded” was used without malice to refer to individuals who had a developmental disability. To use it as an insult, now, makes it all the more demeaning to those individuals with developmental disabilities.

It’s different from “dumb” or “lame,” which I’ve never heard used as an innocent way to describe a speech or physically impaired person, firsthand. Those words fit your description, better, of those that have been so far removed from their original meaning that they are no longer offensive by today’s standards.

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Completely agree, by “other way round” in my comment I meant it didn’t originally mean disabled not that it started as an insult

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You’re really more offended by a person taking issue with a word that, for at least the last thirty years, has been used to insult individuals by comparing them to disabled people, as if the latter were somehow less-than? You’re more offended by a person having some level of compassion toward disabled people, than by a person who speaks of them as if they’re without dignity?

Pretty low if you ask me. If keeping the meaning of the insult “retarded” has higher societal importance to you than having respect for disabled people you just might be a huge piece of shit.

Literally all this dude above is asking is for people to not invoke disabled individuals when insulting another person, and people in this thread are bending over backwards to justify doing just that. Pretty fucking gross.

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You didn’t seem to take offense to them using “idiot.” Why are you comfortable insulting “idiots”? Do you think that mentally deficient people choose to be mentally deficient? That’s just how they’re born. Why would you endorse insulting someone for something they have no choice about?

Being mentally deficient is a disability. “Idiot” is no better than the other words used here. Just stop being so insulting. Seriously, wow.

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Idiot is not. It comes from a Greek word for someone who doesn’t pay attention to politics.

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A little bit of both, apparently.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot

If this is correct, then it started out as a word for private citizen and then evolved in Greek to mean ignorant.

Then in the 19th Century was coined as a medical term.

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