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181 points

They’re getting no end of grief from bad/paid actors though.

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183 points

The amount of whinging and bootlicking from people taking Spez’s side was insane before I left for good.

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152 points

It doesn’t seem organic. Protest posts would get 95% upvotes, then suddenly 12 hours later get slammed with bootlickers and downvotes.

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78 points

Reddit felt really astroturfed for years now. Start mentioning Neill Druckman in any capacity and your post immediately got flooded with copy paste hate centered on TLoU2. It seemed organic at the time, but when the TV series came out it was very sus, as if somebody had forgotten to turn off their bot army.

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45 points

I’ve talked to a few that seemed organic, but those were basically people who wanted Reddit to get back to normal and not waste time on bullshit that didn’t affect them personally.

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24 points

i did check in a few communities that i was engaging with before, and honestly, it seemed organic, but it was always lurkers/semi-lurkers who don’t post and only comment like once every two months. accounts for the delay as well, because they don’t check reddit that often (before everything went to shit posts would usually be gathering views for a good 24 hours)

but reddit also started using chatgpt to prop itself up lately (which afaik is against chatgpt’s tos, so that’s nice for the future lawsuit if they wanna cash in), so idk. that does put a damper on their legitimacy.

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42 points

Wasn’t it proven that majority of the positive spez posts are from bots or chatgpt or something?

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At least one post was defending reddit in r/programming has been shown to be chatGPT, that’s for sure. If they have one bot, who’s to say they don’t have thousands?

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32 points

Before I left I tried engaging with some of them, the only one to have a discussion was either a very fast typist or was doing a copy/paste. Their arguments weren’t really consistent and only made sense independently, they claimed to have read transcripts of the Apollo dev interview with the Verge and various other sources but completely misrepresented or ignored basically every detail that made Reddit look bad. It did not feel like a genuine discussion with someone who actually believed their own arguments or was interested in anything other than muddying the waters in defense of Reddit management.

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58 points

You just described Reddit in general

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45 points

No doubt, but they’ve really ramped up lately. It’s like all the manchildren from t_D suddenly saw their chance to be assholes again without consequence.

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33 points

The un-moderated right wing shit has been very pronounced on Reddit the last few weeks.

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24 points

This is how the playbook for Fascism works.

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20 points

I look at it this way: it sucks, but it’s not surprising - it’s expected. There’s no reason for them to cater to the users, because that’s not how these things work. The people who made this decision

(a) mostly care about money

(b) were obviously willing to lose the favor of Reddit’s users for money

© have built a platform who’s monetization model has become somewhat at odds with what made Reddit good in the first place

(d) are probably going to succeed in making money from Reddit

It’s sad, it really sucks. But, there’s nothing we can really do about it, apart from things like post memes mocking Spez or making subreddits go “dark”.

Neither of those are long term solutions.

I’d rather we moved on and let it go, tbh. We could be doing a lot more

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7 points

Almost like they’re being paid to do it.

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6 points

Exactly. Depending on what time you posted, you could get two totally different responses to a post.

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35 points

Yup, before the 1st I was getting mass harassed by what were clearly new accounts for pointing out the responders were clearly copying/pasting from a script.

But once that was pointed out, only 12 year old accounts with little posting history showed up lol, which seemed bizarre.

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17 points

I had a guy try to justify the latter type of account as “I’m just not very active on reddit”. My man, you made one post, commented on one other post a few weeks later, then complete radio silence for 9 years, just to pop up spreading anti-trans propaganda on post after post?

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7 points

I’ve heard before that in the early days of Reddit u/spez had hundreds of alts he would use to reply to posts to make Reddit seem more popular. I wonder if he occasionally resurrects them to support political arguments he likes or to defend Reddit admins.

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It sounds like one of the many of spez’ alts he openly admitted to having years back, since he seems to laud him self as a troll.

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I hope they don’t bend to them. Reddit fully deserves this level of overt trolling at this point.

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Literally nothing new. - A Reddit Mod. There’s a lot of power tripping shitty mods, but a lot don’t deserve half the grief they get. Some people tend to take out a lot of negativity on mods when they cannot see the human.

The griefing doesn’t look good for Reddit either. Harassing your unpaid volunteers = excellent investment, probably, I guess. Maybe it does, controversy keeps people engaged.

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