Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft said that while he didn’t want to do it, he had to remind people of how “severe” the situation is.

A top Republican official in Missouri is threatening to remove President Joe Biden from appearing on the ballot as retaliation for the determination in two other states that Donald Trump doesn’t qualify because he “engaged in insurrection.”

“What has happened in Colorado & Maine is disgraceful & undermines our republic,” Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft wrote on the social media site X on Friday. “While I expect the Supreme Court to overturn this, if not, Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!”

Ashcroft’s post came shortly after the Supreme Court agreed to review a decision by Colorado’s high court that found Trump could be barred from the state’s primary ballot because of his actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

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Trump hasn’t been found guilty of sedition either.

Yes, I’m prepared for the down votes from a bunch of idiots who hate reality.

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Trump hasn’t been found guilty of sedition either.

Not in a court of law; but given all the evidence you have to be willfully ignorant to believe he isn’t guilty of it and wouldn’t receive a conviction if/when there actually is a trial.

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I think he’s guilty of it. But we shouldn’t be talking about guilt because it’s not part of the amendment.

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But we shouldn’t be talking about guilt because it’s not part of the amendment

That’s just being pedantic. What’s a better word to use to say “he fucking did it?”

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Article 14 doesn’t stipulate guilt, just engaging in which the Colorado court determined he did. His removal is the result of due process. So if they can show in court that Biden did the same then sure…but they cannot.

Not the same, purely partisan BS.

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Article 14 doesn’t stipulate guilt,

Nor did I say it did.

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No, but you said Trump has not been found guilty which is not required for him to be precluded from running for office. It’s an artificial bar some are trying to set unsupported by the text in the Constitution.

In any rational timeline SCOTUS would agree but with these justices who knows.

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So what, you’re suggesting the reality is it was staged? Because we all observed reality with our real eyes in real time.

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You’re not wrong. However by the text of the Constitution a guilty verdict isn’t required to invalidate candidacy.

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Correct. Trump hasn’t been found guilty of sedition. He has been found guilty of insurrection by the Colorado supreme Court. He also hasn’t been criminally convicted of insurrection, because this isn’t a criminal case.

Sedition and insurrection are different, and parts of different laws. Criminal and civil guilt are also different mechanisms of our laws, but the 14th amendment doesn’t state someone needs to have a criminal conviction to be considered ineligible for office.

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He has been found guilty of insurrection by the Colorado supreme Court.

An interesting thing I hadn’t thought about. Thanks.

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Technically that is true. However, he was impeached for incitement of insurrection by the House of Representatives. The majority of the Senate then voted to remove him after impeachment, but not the 2/3s majority required.

So no, not “found guilty of sedition”. But he was impeached for inciting insurrection.

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