Comment by Grayox@lemmy.ml on Beautiful

Here’s the thing, we should strive for an ideal world.

The ideal world isn’t a realistic world unless you can solve for plumbing, etc. If the meme was tax the rich, I’d have upvoted and moved on. We should improve the world we have rather than strive for dreams.

My guy, we have solved plumbing. You lack vision, i dont want to tax the rich, I want to abolish the system that allows the rich to exist in the first place.

Yes! Onward toward a USSR style system that somehow doesn’t involve forced labor, comrade!

Wants communism, doesn’t understand that it doesn’t solve the problem of no one wanting to clean up shit.

Shits on communism, has no basic understanding of how a centrally run economy functions.

No no, I definitely do. I’m not the one willfully ignoring the reality of how ridiculous “everyone can be artists and writers and no one has to work” sounds.

I mean soviet states fixed that by giving better amenities, lower hours, or earlier retirement to people working harder or more unpleasant jobs.

Do plumbers currently have better amenities, lower hours, or earlier retirement than capitalists who do literally nothing?

To each according to their needs from each according to their abilities, and I love how you are just going to ignore how labor is forced in a capitalist system by the threat of dying on the streets if you dont show up to work. Labor is forced in America every damn day.

I’m not ignoring it at all, I even highlighted it in another comment above.

It is hard to beat the current system that encourages people to work a single profession for ~30 years 5 days a week in order to foster expertise. And somehow, (rightly or not) manages to make most of them feel like they do it willingly.

I am highlighting the very much more clearly forced labor that arises in communist systems. The kind that people can’t gaslight themselves into thinking they do willingly. Which you seem to be ignoring as hard as you can. Stunning projection tbh.

Youre comparing making monarchists and nazi POWs (and due to corruption other folks getting caught up in that) work to repair the soviet union to making slaves out of drug addicts in the United States and somehow thinking the former is worse.

Yup that’s the plan

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