Tried Xwayland… jump through hoops to get something meant to be run on Wayland on X11… sorry, not for me. And it didn’t work in the end BTW, have no idea why.
Though, I have to admit, this was over a year ago.
Still, my stand point is, this is not a finished product no matter how you look at it. If you don’t have at least 90% of the stuff that are supposed to work, working, without major problems, then yes, but this is more like 50/50. Some things work, some don’t, we really have no idea what does and doesn’t… except Wayland and Nvidia of course, we know that doesn’t work.
Ummm… Sure… Progress takes time, and it won’t speed up at all if everyone says “it’s not ready,” and edge cases never get tested. I mean, the project is sixsteen years old now. It’s been more than just " pretty good" for years at this point.
And I doubt that your distro is going to drop X11 session support anytime soon. So if you reinstall, you may need to do one more step to make that the default. Big whoop.
But the real meat here is that you had a bad experience something like a year ago, and it seems like you’ve developed true hatred over it. Would it help to know that Nvidia and Wayland play nicely now? They have for quite some time.
FWIW, I had very little trouble with xwayland even years ago. It didn’t really require any setup for me. It just kinda worked. Sure, there will always be SOME weirdness, but overall it’s been working really well for years.
Anyways, I’m sure you can still toggle over to your X session for years to come. At least until your DE decides it wants to go wayland only.
I just don’t like how every distro out there is pushy about it. Give us a choice, fine, but don’t make it the default.
My distro is not gonna drop support for X11 for a very long time. I’m not worried about that part.
Would it help to know that Nvidia and Wayland play nicely now?
Not according to what I’ve read. There were people complaining about Nvidia and Wayland in this thread as well.
And I don’t even own an Nvidia GPU, most of my GPUs are onboard, Intel.
TBH, it sounds like you should go with a distro that makes no assumptions. Like an Arch/Endeavor. It definitely sounds like you’re current distro doesn’t meet your needs/ideals if you’re this angry about a default change.
Let’s be fair to the distro maintainers, though. They have the option to either keep shipping and developing against abandoned code, or they move with upstream. Since no one is developing X11 anymore, they’re all moving to the new stuff. Most of them changed defaults years ago, too. Hard to develop new features when X is so long in the tooth.
The writing has been on the wall about the death of X11 for a long time, now. No one stepped up to fork it or take over maintenance. So it goes. But this is Linux, so you’re free to run it forever. Or even fork and maintain it yourself.
FWIW, Wayland+Nvidia was fine for me. Promising, even, considering how new it is. There are bugs to squash, sure, but there always are in new software.
