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Right, the entire point is that democracy is when you have real conversations about issues . Not when you call them brainwashed and ignore them.

Your truth seeking methodology is “US bad.” I am skeptical of that methodology. If you want to realistically engage with that, then I am fully there. But until then, “you are brainwashed and I am enlightened” just isn’t a super interesting conversation

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You have no fucking idea what my “truth seeking methodology” is. I studied history. You should too.

That you have to believe I’m so moronic as to start from the assumption that “USA bad” shows how weak your position is. I already told you, I was born and raised here. I was indoctrinated like you were. My truth seeking led me to the realization that the US is doing worse than what it lies about other countries doing.

Also, if you have to keep redefining democracy to make your point, try examining that.

Also, get some reading comprehension. I never called you brainwashed not did I say I was enlightened. I said I used to believe what you believe because I was raised in the USA and educated the same way everyone else was. But I spent a lot of time and effort studying and fighting against my indoctrination and now I believe the opposite of what you believe.

You have not gone through that. You believe the same things you believed when you were in high school. And you think other people are being influenced by some strange and powerful external force but that the force is weak and terrible and obviously evil but some people are weaker than you and succumb to their influence?

Just seriously engage with history. Your indoctrination won’t survive the encounter.

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I don’t think you believe the opposite of what I believe. I don’t think you can articulate any criticism of China, no matter how inconsequential. The opposite of what I believe would be if you could not muster any criticism of both the US and China.

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I understand the criticisms you levy against China and could articulate them, because, again, your criticisms are predominantly Western talking points. I just don’t agree with them.

As for your criticisms of the US, it’s clear that you don’t understand the depth of the criticisms levied against the US (and Europe) or you wouldn’t be adopting the positions you take nor make the comparisons you make.

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