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Stop making a language model do math? We have already have calculators.

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Do you think maybe it’s a simple and interesring way of discussing changes in the inner workings of the model, and that maybe people know that we already have calculators?

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I think it’s a lazy way of doing it. OpenAI has clearly stated that math isn’t something that they are even trying to make it good at. It’s like testing how fast Usain bolt is by having him bake a cake.

If chatgpt is getting worse at math it might just be a side effect of them making it better at reading comprehension or something they want it to be good at there is no way to know that.

Measure something it is supposed to be good at.

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All the things it’s supported to be good at are completely subjectively judged.

That’s why, u less you have a panel of experts in your back pocket, you need something with a yes or no answer to have an interesting discussion.

If people were discussing ChatGPT’s code writing ability, you’d complain that it wasn’t designed to do that either. The problem is that it was designed to transform inputs tk relatively beliveable outputs, representative of its training set. Great. That’s not super useful. It’s actual utility comes from its emergent behaviours.

Lemme know when you make a post detailing the opinions of some university “Transform inputs to outputs” professors. Until then, well ocmrinue to discuss its behaviour in observable, verifiable and useful areas.

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Nah, asking it to do math is perfect. People are looking for emergent qualities and things it can do that they never expected it to be able to do. The fact that it could do somewhat successful math before despite not being a calculator was fascinating, and the fact that it can’t now is interesting.

Let the devs worry about how good it is at what it is supposed to do. I want to hear about stuff like this.

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Has it gotten better at other stuff? Are you posing a possible scenario or asserting a fact? Would be curious about specific measurements if the later.

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