Rep. Joe Morelle, D.-N.Y., appeared with a New Jersey high school victim of nonconsensual sexually explicit deepfakes to discuss a bill stalled in the House.

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Aguing that since you do a crime with a tool, outlawing the crime outlaws the tool is a bad argument. Outlawing murder doesn’t outlaw knives.

As far as enforcement, it may be enforced with varying degrees of success but the argument that someone may get away with the crime also isn’t a reason not to make it a crime.

If someone created deep fakes using locally run models, rubbed one out and then deleted everything they probably wouldn’t be caught…but largely who cares that they didn’t? It’s the harm to others that it causes that you would largely like to prevent, and if a person didn’t distribute the image at all them “getting away with it” doesn’t matter much.

Edit: I think the argument that existing laws already cover this is more compelling than any of the above arguments as far as why this new law shouldn’t be passed.

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You conceded that no one cares if someone makes images locally then deletes them. But that’s how they’re all going to be made shortly.

Currently folks are sharing them because not everyone has the means to create them, some folks do, and share what they’ve made.

Once litterally every can just make them the moment they want to, no one will be sharing. Everyone will fall under that use case that you admitted no one would care about, which is exactly what I’ve been saying. It’s 1. futile to try to stop, and 2. going to become so wide spread that we as a society will stop caring about it.

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Once litterally every can just make them the moment they want to, no one will be sharing.

I do not think this is true. There are reasons to generate and distribute these other than to have a personal wank off gallery.

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Like what? Why share something when anyone curious to see it can instantly generate their own?

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