There are a lot of reasons not to give them your money. They’re assholes to the maker community and they openly talk shit on a lot of their customer base. That’s beside the point, though, really.

It’s just not a spectacular option for hosting. In order to get a Rpi competitive with even the shittiest laptop from 7 years ago, you’re going to end up spending more than you would spend on a decent laptop from 7 years ago.

If it is a computer that turns on, it will likely function orders of magnitude better than an Rpi and won’t bind you to ARM architecture. My entire hosting setup was pulled out of a recycling pile for free. Install ubuntu/ubuntu server and enjoy yourself.

If you intend on spending any amount of money on this hobby, I cannot express enough how much I recommend against any of that money going toward a Raspberry Pi.

EDIT: A lot of you seem to be reading this as “Raspberry Pis are all nonfunctional” and getting mad about it. Don’t do that.

Edit 2: Good to see that all the stupid parts of reddit made it here

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Can you expand on some of this?

I haven’t really heard much regarding them being bad to their community/customer base, though I haven’t bought in a few years.

In regards to cost/performance, what are you meaning you’d need to spend extra on to match that of an old laptop or recycled machine?

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Not OP, but my Lenovo tiny computer on ebay is about $60 and will run circles around a raspberry pi

Power usage isn’t too much higher, it’s upgradeable, and it’s x86-64 architecture so more things are supported.

My tiny has an i7 and was a bit more expensive, but it’s a powerful little guy. I added more ram for a total of 32, and it does better than my “old” server (technically from same era).

Can’t speak for the other stuff.

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Same with the HP elite desks, and don’t forget you can get off lease Chromebooks with much better specs than pi for ~$60 as well

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The EliteDesks are nice, but beware top venting if you’re planning to stack them vertically

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I have a few PIs already and like them, but if I was doing a system today I’d probably go with the HP Elite Desk (800 Gen 2 or 3 perhaps), sourced as an ex-gov unit which can be had very cheap. The PIs have gotten expensive enough that they’re basically price equivalent once you add a case and possibly an SSD to it, at least locally. Have used those HP systems at work and they’re decent little boxes.

The caveat is that I’m not too fussed if I’m drawing extra power, as long as the performance justifies it. If power was a primary concern then the PI may still win out. I’m also not going to need to consider size in anything I do, and then then the micro PC form factors aren’t massive.

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facts, at this point you are paying for size, gpio and the fact that its a form factor with industrial grade options easily available. not really as useful for a hobbyist at the price though.

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For projects I prefer an ESP32 unless it needs a fancy GUI.

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Do you run Windows on yours, or have you installed a different OS to run things?

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I run proxmox on bare metal. I have a couple VMs for docker, and video game servers.

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Not op but I have 3 tiny PCs and I run Linux on them. But then I don’t run windows at all because it honestly sucks.

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if you don’t want to be replacing sd cards

The truth hurts, but this is the truth. Clawing at those little shits is the most annoying thing ever.

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I’ve heard log2ram can make the SD cards last much longer, I usually just make it read only though.

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I think you still need a SD card, and that looks like workaround and not the way its made. Also USB doesnt have enough power for disk so you need external psu or powered hdd case. I was using 1 SSD from USB and it was working, but it was struggling and system got corrupted eventually

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Because SD cards come with the Pi by default

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If you don’t want to be replacing sdcards every two weeks, you’ll need to add a hard drive with an enclosure which will also need power. You’ll also need an upgraded power supply for the pi. To deal with any sort of scale, you’ll need more than one in a swarm. If you don’t want them just out in the open air, you’ll either need to coat them or put them in cases. It just all adds up to way more than a $5 ebay laptop with a broken screen that has 20x the performance.

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Don’t buy garage SD cards. I have cards that have been in use for years.

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Dang I gotta stop getting my cards from garages?

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I have an SSD connected to mine which doesn’t need external power and runs fine off the “official” power adapter. The case I have isn’t the greatest (two pieces of acrylic and some stand-offs lol), but it costed 50p and gets the job done.

As for scale, you’re beyond a Pi at that point.

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I had the same, but it got corrupted eventually. It seemed it was working fine, but it was impossible to complete smartctl test. I believe that rpi cant handle peak power draw every SSD. That SSD was running fine for 3-4 months and before that I had one running for 2-3 years. I feel like its kinda random and depends on your luck

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