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That was such a a wandering comment that idk how to respond, aside from: there are plenty of reasons why Biden is not as progressive as the world is moving. The way he handled Ukraine and Russia was amazing. He just backed the “Russia” in the Israeli/Palestine version. And I personally don’t like that. And if I can’t voice my displeasure with an elected official, then what are we doing here?

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Because we all know you’re not asking why you can’t criticise him, you’re asking why you’re not allowed to keep calling yourself our ally at pride when you use this as an excuse to not vote for him.

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Well that’s quite aggressive and absolutely not what I’m saying

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You can voice your displeasure while also making sure the world slides a little more slowly down the shithole (and potentionally has a chance to crawl back out). Voting for the president is important, but it’s far from the only thing that is. Hedging everything you believe in on a single office is far more damaging than a single vote for Biden could ever be.

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We’ve been living through at least 40+ years of “Vote for 20% more evil instead of 40% more evil” and wouldn’t you know it we’re at a substantial higher level of evil.

Everyone loves screeching about leftists/3rd party types being silly stupid babies, but yall are the ones who keep telling us the only way to less evil is by adding more evil. 🤷

We’re at least trying. If everyone who was a little piss baby whenever third parties came up voted for one we’d have a few by now.

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No, that’s literally not how that works at all, and frankly if you’re dumb enough to think that that is, or malicious enough to willfully ignore knowing that’s not how that works, then it’s pretty obvious you haven’t lived through 40 years of this supposed droning on.

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Seeing as the post limits itself to the presidency, my response was about the presidency. If you’d like to talk about how lower ballot initiatives are important in different ways, I’m in board to listen. But these a different conversation.

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No one says you can’t vote, or think how you want to think, by all means this is a free country.

The issue I run into is that everyone is being purity tested to an extent that no individual who is at least somewhat tolerable to much of the political middle in the U.S., is acceptable to a specific subset of people who are constantly outraged by something.

Many of these same people complain endlessly about many of the issues a Trump presidency is going to greatly exacerbate, and don’t seem to understand, none of us get what we want, but helping to elect him by not voting for the only real alternative seems insanely illogical in my mind. Much like the post states.

It makes no sense to me, “this person is going to burn everything down, but I’m not going to support the only alternative who does things that aren’t nearly as bad…”

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I feel like these “people” in your examples are simply scarecrows in your head.

You’re running full on through a straw man argument, dude.

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I don’t have to scarecrow people I know, who are examples of this exact behavior. If I didn’t know people like this why would I bring it up?

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Barely holding back genocide and civil war in the U.S. That’s what we’re doing here

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