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Tankies in tears over this, they can’t handle the fact that they have to vote for Biden lmao

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Tankies don’t know their own history. Stalin helped to found Israel, expecting it to be socialist. USSR was the first to recognise it de jure and Czechoslovakia supplied it with weapons.

Later, when Israel sided with the west, USSR started a policy of anti-zionism, restricted rights of Jewish people and supplied weapons to Israel’s enemies.

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It does not sound fun to be forced to vote for a right wing union busting genocide supporter no, that the choice is between that and another even more dangerous right wing idiot shows the system doesn’t work.

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3 points

Cheering on genocide to spite the tankies.

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Man, if only they hadn’t slaughtered and raped a bunch of civilians they might not have an entire army bearing down on them

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Man, if only Israel hadn’t been committing ethnic cleansing and operating the world’s largest open air prison for decades, they might not have had that attack committed against them. Apparently you think this gives Israel license to commit genocide, even though the number of Israelis who died on October 7th is a fraction of the number of Palestinians killed up to that point. Now with Israel’s ramped up campaign of genocide that you love so much, the number of Palestinians dead even further eclipse those of Israelis to a much higher degree. Tell me, how many Palestinians have to die to quench your bloodlust? How many of those 25,000+ Palestinians that have died since October 7th deserved to die because Hamas did an attack, or does only October 7th count for some reason?

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No one has to vote for Genocide Joe. Imagine calling people tankies while living in the most authoritarian country on earth.

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Lmao you people are so fucking delusional it’s wild

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35 points

All leftists are in tears, Biden is a center-right Capitalist. Leftists should vote for Biden, but they can understandably be upset that they have to vote for a Neoliberal just to prevent a fascist, while liberals and fascists get to gleefully trot to the ballot box and vote for someone that actually represents their views.

You want leftists to side with you happily? Maybe try appealing to leftists, instead of running on the basis of not being a fascist.

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neoliberalism is fascism

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That’s what exactly no theory does to someone.

Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism. Neoliberalism is letting Capitalism loose, which will result in Capitalists gaining power and creating an absolute bourgeois state to oppress the Workers, typically by providing an “enemy” as a response to increasing disparity and a slipping of the grasp of Capital.

Fascism is a response to Neoliberalism, but is not the same, and in the US election the Neoliberal party and the fascist party vary significantly when it comes to social issues. Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance, and those I love are not privledged enough to not be in danger.

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I mean yeah. That’s exactly it. One party is running on not changing anything in particular but keeping everyone exactly where they are, and the other is running on the idea of hurting people and will actually do it with power.

People don’t like to feel trapped in a bad situation even if others feel great about being trapped in a good one. The feeling of being unable to do anything or even trying to do anything will so much more disenfranchise the vote base than an Internet comment will but it’s definitely compounding.

But when you have a party run on a promise and meet their goals then it looks appealing and people will think they can sand off the rough edges cause at least there is movement, ignoring that the rough edges are what grabs more angry people.

I actually don’t see this election going well without Biden slamming into the fight like a WWE star trying to be a fan favorite and actually getting a win. Or standing up at least and taking the hits to the face to prove they care. Apathy and comfort, the plagues of the Democrats right now.

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Out of the people in this thread who are complaining about Biden and the Democrats, how many of them have joined the party, organized, and have pushed to make changes from inside the party?

You know the answer, it’s none of them. Because most of them are here to make sure Trump wins, and the rest are those who are susceptible to that type of propaganda.

Meanwhile, Democrats push for a two-state solution: https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/01/24/congress/reasserting-the-two-state-solution-00137623

Republicans push for genocide:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/10/florida-republican-michelle-salzman-palestine

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Leftists should vote for Biden

We’re headed for another 2000 election. A handful of campaign flaks are going to Brooks Brothers Riot a few counties in a red state with the blessing of a governor hostile to the very idea of democratic governance. Biden is going to meekly surrender after the election is straight up stolen on national television by far-right courts. And then the national media is going to find the real villain - not the thugs terrorizing polling places nationwide, not the nerds hemming and hawing about Rule of Law while the books are rewritten under their noses, not the national media fabricating bullshit smears 24/7 to keep the race up as a spectacle - but a dorky little 3rd party environmentalist nerd who dared to suggest that better things are possible.

Biden will shit the bed and Trump will run out the back door with the mattress, while every screaming Twitter avi will point the finger at this cycle’s Ralph Nader.

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