Comment by Sybil@lemmy.world on Way to go, guys!

neoliberalism is fascism

That’s what exactly no theory does to someone.

Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism. Neoliberalism is letting Capitalism loose, which will result in Capitalists gaining power and creating an absolute bourgeois state to oppress the Workers, typically by providing an “enemy” as a response to increasing disparity and a slipping of the grasp of Capital.

Fascism is a response to Neoliberalism, but is not the same, and in the US election the Neoliberal party and the fascist party vary significantly when it comes to social issues. Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance, and those I love are not privledged enough to not be in danger.

Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance

citation needed, because Mike Brown was murdered under the deporter in chief, and Biden wrote the crime bill that clinton signed.

how does that violence compare to the violence of being sent to a country where you and your family are in danger? how does that violence compared to the violence of being locked up and a slave colony? how do you quantify this? I don’t believe it is quantifiable.

I said violence is higher under Republicans against minority populations, and gave proof. You are now saying that doesn’t matter and moving the goal posts.

Touch grass.

you gave one expression of violence that may be higher under Republicans, but how do you quantify all violence?

Obama straight up murdered an American citizen for going to the wrong wedding. being Muslim is dangerous under Democrats.

That’s certainly a whattaboutism, considering Republicans have routinely bombed the fuck out of the Middle East as well. I gave you proof and you’re moving the goalposts.

I’m not moving the goal posts. they’re exactly where I planted them: you can’t quantify all violence, so you can’t say that it’s going to be higher under one administration or another against any group.

Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism.

no, neoliberalism is fascism. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.

You contradicted yourself. Neoliberalism is not fascism, it provides the breeding grounds for fascism.

neoliberalism is fascism. I didn’t contradict myself.

Elaborate. You said it’s fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?

This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That’s like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.

fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don’t think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.

fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.

neoliberalism is fascism.

Elaborate

They think so therefore they’re right. I’ve seen far too many ludicrous statements by people that clearly came before the evidence, not after it.

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