I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don’t, you weren’t paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton’s campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we’re being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election “We’re about to get Brexited.” I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980’s.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They’re the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump’s mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

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Democrats are a big tent you can’t just boot out the centrists or the neo-liberals and expect to win anything.

Wrong. You can expect the neo-liberals to fall in line in the exact same way they expect progressives to fall in line.

Progressives are not uniquely enlightened, and you cannot reliably expect them to be the “bigger man” indefinitely.

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You know, Ill agree with you. I just don’t think an election where Trump is on the ticket is the right time to test it.

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