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24 points

I’m waiting for a fairphone with a headphone jack and then hopping on that.

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I mean, there’s no lack of USB-C earphones these days, and adapters are tiny. I think for a brand like FairPhone the cost cutting of a feature almost no User cares for really makes sense.

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6 points

Yes, adapters are tiny but they stock out sooooo much. At least with corded earphones some of them come with 90 degree plugs which is so much better and lesser chance of something breaking.

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10 points

Oh, the headphone jack… using a phone without it is so counter productive and annoying, wait for the phone to fully charge, now wait for your headsets to charge too, I don’t know why we’re moving backwards 🙄

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4 points

I used to feel this way until I realized that a large percentage of phone users rarely used earbuds or headphones, including myself. Wired earbuds were a pain in the ass, nobody wanted to carry a coiled up cable in their pocket all day. But a little clamshell with a couple small buds in it fits pretty well into a jeans pocket. Once wireless earbuds hit the market, everyone started using them for a reason.

The only real argument for an analog headphone jack at this point is audio fidelity, and if you care about that you’re 1, not using your phone with a cheap DAC to do it and 2, your headphones probably use a 1/4" jack not a 3.5mm one. Wireless protocols are also catching up to analog as far as audio quality as well, and most people expect IP68 from a good phone these days, and you’re not getting that with a 3.5mm audio jack or removable battery.

The consumers who care about an audio jack on phones these days are a very vocal minority.

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Wired earbuds were a pain in the ass, nobody wanted to carry a coiled up cable in their pocket all day. But a little clamshell with a couple small buds in it fits pretty well into a jeans pocket.

Lmao what??

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3 points

The point is that their earbuds are absolutely non repairable, and admittedly so. Really hope they can improve that, but I think they might just discontinue the earbuds in favour of repairable headphones.

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5 points

Whole disagreeing with you on usefulness of the jack, I will still point out one correction.

The USB c standard actually includes analog audio pin outs. So fidelity wise there’s no difference between using the adapter vs a 3.5mm jack.

However, since the removal of the jack, most phones have really skimmed down the dacs. Makes me miss my LG v40.

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4 points

Exactly. If anything, I’d much rather like to see a secondary USB-C port, preferably on top of the device. That would be an actual benefit for almost everyone.

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6 points

Did everyone forget that Galaxy S5 exists with headphone jack, removable battery and water resistance?

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8 points

Galaxy S5 was IP67 with a headphone socket, removable battery and dedicated microSD card slot. Others have also existed. Taking like adding a headphone socket costs more than 5 cents is stupid.

I’m a Bluetooth buds convert now, but I’d still like the choice.

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They were no more of a pain than fishing out a wireless holder, and they took up even less space. The reason people used wireless was because manufacturers stopped giving people the option to use wired. That being said, having a headphone jack still lets you use wireless.

And nobody actually uses wired for audio quality, they use it because they don’t have to charge their headphones and separate headphone case or deal with the health of another battery, they can connect and disconnect their audio devices faster and easier, they don’t have to pay for an extra wireless chip and dac in their headphones or a third battery and electronics in a case.

There’s actually quite a few good reasons to have the option available if you want it. I’d argue this is a “dress with no pockets” scenario, where everybody begrudgingly puts up with it because the manufacturers don’t give them an option.

Pretty much every single person i talk to about this thinks that removing the headphone jack was a stupid idea, and those who don’t think it’s stupid are indifferent anyway.

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That’s what these are for

They are also available in a few different shapes that may work better depending on device and user preferences and cost like 2-6 bucks on Ali. I use a different one with my steam deck that also has a little U adapter that 180s the plug direction and braces it against the back so it doesn’t torque off if I rotate the device in my hands.

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7 points

3.5mm jack is practically unbreakable. My usbc port isn’t.

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17 points

Having a jack entirely avoids the introduced problem by only having a USB port. Ie. Dongles

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6 points

I know that this post will probably be downvoted to hell, but I’m pretty sure no phone will return the headphone jack, ever.

You’re either gonna have to quit using smartphones entirely or just have to give up on the headphone jack dream. It’s never going to happen again

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4 points

I’m waiting for one with a good camera.

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