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Given how fast China can progress when they put their minds to it, this is worrying.

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Well, when you’ve spent the past 20 years stealing intellectual property and conducting industrial espionage is it really that hard to get to this point?

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Actually they were just exchanging their cheap labour and garbage disposal for the West’s collective greed. So its only fair they return in kind.

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Given how fast China can progress when they put their our minds to it, this is worrying.

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I dunno, stealing intellectual property from companies strikes me as a victimless crime.

But more than that, it’s the only way for poor countries to work their way out of poverty. We hold the profitable ends of the value chain, developing countries are left holding the unprofitable middle, and we won’t provide any of the know-how needed to work the more profitable parts.

Either we willingly include technology transfer as part of globalisation, or we whine about ‘IP theft’. Because we can’t expect poor countries to willingly stay poor to benefit us.

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China is the second largest economy in the world, nobody is whining about Ethiopia borrowing ideas to feed people.

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Stealing IP is victimless up to a point: At the point where companies that pay for innovation are out-competed by companies that just steal this innovations, everyone that wants technological progress is a victim. This is why I have an issue with companies like Huawei blatantly stealing IP. We wouldn’t have the tech we rely on today if not for someone eating the cost of innovation, turning a profit, and seeing continued innovation as a viable business strategy.

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I’m not sad China is stealing IP from billionaires who are hoarding their wealth. If those billionaires want American citizens to care then share more of the profits.

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I love it when the apologists’ friends show up, when you guys can’t argue the high ground any more you just take aim at everyone else

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3 points

They don’t have the EUV machines needed to make the most modern chips. Only DUV so far.

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Huawei recently released a phone with an SoC using that tech. So they have it in some capacity.

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