Comment by formergijoe@lemmy.world on "Outdoor Cat vs Indoor Cat" by Sarah Andersen

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The 1 to 4 billion animals killed by outdoor cats every year: X_X

Not to mention all the outdoor cats that are themselves killed or horribly injured.

I know a guy who went through 5 cats in a few months because he was getting them, letting them out, and they were getting hit by cars since he lives on a super busy road that has heavy semi traffic.

It really reminds me of that one joke “I keep having to buy a new car because my neighbors dog keeps eating it” " it sounds like you’re just feeding cats to the neighbors dog"

Dude just didn’t seem to grasp simple addition that his new cat + outside in a bad area = squish

Sounds like Pet Sematary.

What, he was like “huh Snuffy hasn’t been around for a few days. Welp, time to get a new cat I suppose!” every two weeks?

The only cat I’ve had that I’ve felt okay with letting roam was a stray that came to us declawed, so he was mostly harmless. We still ended up making him an inside cat because we caught him sneaking into the neighbor’s house to steal their cat’s food and poop in its litterbox.

Declawed cats are a coyotes favorite meal. Big enough to feed the kids and cant even fight back

Not a lot of coyotes in our neck of the woods, but the little orange moron kept writing checks with the neighbor cats that his disarmed front paws couldn’t cash, so he was always coming back with scratches. One of the other reasons we stopped letting him out.

That is an oddly specific culinary preference for a wild animal to have.

Easy to catch fattened meals are a pretty clear cut preference

Is that how that works though? I don’t know anything about Coyotes, but I know things generally know better than to fuck with cats.

Declawing is cruel. It’s basically cutting off your first knuckle.

I would never do it to a cat, but when this particular one wandered into my then-girlfriend’s house one night and decided he lived there, he was already declawed. He never seemed to suffer too badly from it, fortunately.

But what if he was a guest there? Maybe the neighbour’s cat told him “make yourself at home?” Did you even ask him? Psh …

We actually found out when my wife was over visiting, and he came in through the cat door, locked eyes with her, froze, and slowly backed out of the house. 😅

Absolute environmental disaster, they need to be spayed and neutered and occasionally culled by any competent local government.

You’ll also need to ban pet cats from walking outside without a leash. Our cats were neutered, didn’t stop them from killing any mice or birds they could get their paws on.

The reason they need to be spayed and neutered instead of outright killed is because culls don’t really work on animals that reproduce that quickly. Whenever a spot opens up for another cat to make its territory, it gets immediately claimed. There are a ton of research papers that show spaying and neutering is more effective at lowering stray populations, and that euthanization is more costly on top of being less effective.

I was talking about the cats that are kept as pets, not stray cats. I guess it varies from country to country, but most cats walking around outside in Norway are pets (~90%). Reducing the stray cat population to zero wouldn’t fix the issue of cats killing all the small wildlife unless pet cats are also kept inside.

I wasn’t saying anything against neutering cats.

Wonderful plumage, Norwegian Blues.

If the cat never exits the home then idgaf honestly, but if it escapes then it should be eliminated in the most effective way possible. That is my stance, an unattended cat is a stray for all intents and purposes.

Wow that’s cruel. Someone’s cat gets loose, they can’t find it yet, and you think it should be killed. Good job killing Fluffy because he escaped.

I’d say we take this one step further and declaw, spay, neuter, and keep a lot of people on a leash.

Yup, fuck your outdoor cats.

Humans kill much, much more animals.

I miss the internet where people could laugh at a silly comics instead of writing and upvoting this.

Mate, we’re old enough now to have to actually fix shit instead of waxing lyrical about our youth. Let’s work together, and still have a laugh.

Who says that they’re not?

“Who cares that I club seals? Johnny next door clubs 50 walruses. Sure theyre both going extinct now, but he gets 50 a day! I only get 1!! How could you care that Im clubbing seals with all those dead walruses?”

Im a professional ecologist, there, animal abuser.

But go on, keep telling me how you failed middle school bio so hard that you know better than the global scientific community

I’m glad to know my outdoor cat kills animals

Do you get off on animals going extinct? What is wrong with you?

“Outdoor domestic cats are a recognized threat to global biodiversity. Cats have contributed to the extinction of 63 species of birds, mammals, and reptiles in the wild”

Pretty fuckin low on the priority list to be honest. Cats have been doing this forever. Humans are way worse.

Yeah in their natural habitats, humans are the ones that brought cats with them enabling them to hunt species to extinction. Cats could not have done it without humanity’s help.

Cats are part of the human problem. If you cant reason that bit out, you 100% should not be responsible for another living thing, and probably need regular supervision from an adult to keep you from hurting yourself

This planets already fucked.

Compare the damage humans have done to this planet compared to cats, and tell me THAT’S the problem we should be focusing on.

This planets fucked precisely because people like you worry about the smallest part of the problem possible while championing yourselves as intellectually and morally superior. You’re just stupid.

The cats are part of the damage done by humans.

This subject is literally my job, dropout. Just because you dont grasp what we teach to children about nature doesnt make the facts suddenly warp to your feelings.

Agreed, lol. These people are way too sensitive about pests and birds dying.

Wheres your chaperone?

Why are you proud of lacking empathy for other living creatures? Are you hollow inside? When will you become part of figuring out a balance, instead of being proud of the problem?

There’s not a problem. You guys are worried about pet cats killing birds.

Long list of shit before that’s even remotely on my radar. Get a grip man and realize how privileged you are to sit here complaining about bullshit fuckin problems online.

Do you realize how many other places in the universe have birds and cats and whales? They’re our only other companions in a cold, hard universe where so much can go wrong.

As such, I care a lot more about flora and fauna than mere human achievements and the problems that have resulted; while I’m proud of my species we also need to protect life in our respective little corners. That starts by not letting cats outdoors, and that’s a fact.

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