We typically like Pixel phones a lot, but we have some reservations about Google’s quality control

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My Motorola Edge 30 is fantastic and the best phone I’ve ever had. I think the massive focus on Samsung and Pixel phones are paid and bought for by ad companies.

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Motorola seems to be back on track. I didn’t get the G84 because the CPU seems a bit slow, and I don’t like the curved screens from the Edge models, but it’s definitely on my radar for their next models.

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I love that it’s default android and no crap installed. And it has fantastic battery time. I can easily see myself keeping this phone for a long time and maybe later put Lineage on it just to get rid of Googles tracking.

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Seems very interesting, thanks

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Also super pleased with my Sony, after years of Samsung. Unbloated, battery lasts, good settings in all the right places.

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That’s interesting, I use to use Sony phones during my time at uni and stopped due to all the software I couldn’t delete. Might have to give them a look next time I’m shopping around.

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There’s very little bloatware preinstalled nowadays. Mostly the Google stuff. They come with a couple of extra apps (Netflix, LinkedIn, Facebook) but they can be disabled. Sony themselves have a couple of Xperia apps but same thing, easily disabled. It’s more than Pixel but nothing compared to the bloat on a Samsung.

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How long do you get updates? Also, is that for every component? What ARM version does it use?

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They have said 3 years of software updates. It’s on Android 13 now and got it’s last security update in December 2023.

Not sure about arm version but probably you can find info about that online. It’s an Edge 30 Pro.

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Okay so they are not good with Updates, because Android 14 is out since October, and at least Google ships full security patches every month, i.e. somewhere in Februrary.

GrapheneOS consumes the Google updates into its build system, so it is very fast. They had support for the Pixel Tablet in a day after release, which is crazy.

OEM manufacturers get early access to the codebase because they need to modify their kernels etc, so delaying an update that long is just bad.

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