That’s the crazy thing, there’s too many of them. It also sits in a very stark contrast to what I learned about the requirement to cover up other people’s flaws and sins.
It is neither permissible to spy on the Muslims nor to reveal their faults because Allah says (what means): {And do not spy.} [Quran 49:12]. I’m not well versed in Christianity but shouldn’t snitching be a sin in itself?
Pretty sure this would fall under the several parables in Christianity where Jesus or God basically tells people that exacting judgement for biblical sin is the domain and privilege of God alone and that it’s not the job of people to act on it.
But if Christians didn’t get pushback for being terrible to people they wouldn’t feel persecuted and they all want to suffer somehow to feel like they are Christ-like themselves. The Bible is very much written from the perspective of having it’s work cut out to be radical upheaval of the status quo. I don’t think there was much thought that they would basically recreate the structures they were fighting against by becoming economically as powerful as nobility. When you really start digging everything from the expectation of extreme celebacy to the idea that giving money to the church is a virtue that should be rewarded with respect and prestige in the church isn’t Jesus… It’s Paul. The notoriously power hungry guy who who fell off a horse, hit his head on a rock and hallucinated Jesus.
Without Paul there is no Christianity. The James community got wiped out. What’s more without Paul there is no Bible either.
27 books and 13 attributed to him alone. Of the remaining only 5 are popularly referenced. Of those five 1 is Jesus recast in the mold of Paul (Mark) and the other is about the merry adventures of Paul. Since John copied Luke, Luke copied Matthew, and Matthew copied Mark even the parts about Jesus aren’t really about him.
You don’t know what Jesus really said, you can’t even confirm the man existed.
Here is the truth and I am sorry it hurts. Your god is made in your image. The Jesus you like tells us a lot about you and nothing about what really happened. If you are a SJW type then Jesus is one, if you are an authority type than Jesus is one as well, revolutionary, closeted homosexual, enlightened being who knows about aliens, into peace, into diversity, into charity, into institution building… There are as many Jesus’ as there are people who worship him. The greatest Rorschach test ever made.
Hey, do you have any suggestions on where i can read more on your first two paragraphs please?
Point of order regarding the hostility here - I am not a Christian. Closest spiritual philosophy I ascribe to is Shinto. I dislike Paul in a general sense because I am a trans non-binary person and I grew up in a town where Christian kids were awful to me mostly based off the sex negative nature of Pauline doctrine where I intuit the man was a sex repulsed asexual who really was fond of telling other people what to do and setting that up as the default state of Christianity is very good at creating situations of sexual/religious trauma.
I study the bible and the origins of dogma for historical purpose to help make greater sense of the complex nature of how individual schisms of the church impacted the world. I am aware Jesus has the same situation going as Aristotle and Confucius where what we have of his philosophy was written down by his students or his students students. It’s at best a warped lens.
Still the picture painted that remains of Jesus, or this idea of Jesus… does have some identifiable philosophies. Mostly comparable to the classical stoics.
But at least part of the situation in figuring out the formation of the early church and the development of is to look at the early adopters. The bible is not meant to be be read through as a full endorsement of every rule. Leviticus for instance is “the rules of the tribe of Levi” and are essentially a snapshot of the sort of rules created by the priesthood of that particular time. It gives context of where dogma comes from potentially so that one can extrapolate what is God’s law and what is cultural. There is no divorcing Paul from the modern church due to him being the core around which the whole thing aelf legitimizes… But a Church, any church or the conception of an organized church is not Christianity. As movements go using the document as a historical document (more or less in the same way we would use Monmont or Herodotus) you can recontextualize a very different conception of the religion and there is nothing really to stop you from following it.
you can’t even confirm the man existed.
Well, that’s going a bit overboard. Unless you have someone’s mummy, you can’t confirm that any ancient person existed. Obviously some people existed, otherwise we wouldn’t exist.
The Bible is the most printed book in history. There’s more surviving written evidence that Jesus existed than some Roman Emperors. It’s just an atheist belief that Jesus “probably didn’t exist”.
Whether you believe he was a divine figure is different. But there’s more written evidence about him and what he believed than most people in history.
It doesn’t matter what Christianity says. These piles of sub-human filth are just trying to keep America at its own throat so we focus on human rights issues instead of paying attention to the bills they actually care about.
This shit is all smoke and mirrors and at this point I don’t think they’re going to get the idea until the rest of us start acting real French
