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Trump’s main argument, though he doesn’t admit to insurrection, is that he isn’t technically an officer under the united states and so technically the 14th amendment doesn’t apply.

He could be arguing, strongly, that he didn’t commit insurrection but he’s not. His lawyer basically said, “yeah, we don’t admit that but it doesn’t matter because of this technicality”.

Its a super weak argument. Trumps lawyer gave the scotus very little reason to find in his favor other than, “if you find against us there will be a tit for tat among the states leading to chaos” which, yeah, but that’s not a legal argument.

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Yeah, but he hasn’t been found guilty yet …

He obviously should, and probably will.

But it hasn’t happened yet, and likely won’t before the election.

Which is why I’m complaining about how long our justice system takes for the rich, they can stall

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He was found by a court in Colorado to have engaged insurrection. A criminal conviction is not necessary. Just like there’s no conviction necessary for any other disqualification like age, citizenship, residency, and all the others.

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This?

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/18/1213961050/colorado-judge-finds-trump-engaged-in-insurrection-but-keeps-him-on-ballot

That’s a lawsuit, not a criminal trial.

Like, OJ wasn’t found guilty of murder in criminal court, but he lost the civil trial.

I’m pretty sure that’s the distinction

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That’s like sovereign citizen level bullshit. Crazy they’re going with that.

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Crazy but not surprising. Im sure Maga has many sovereign citizens in its roster.

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