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190 points

I realize most people who would visit 196 certainly know this, but I still feel compelled to point out that anarchism is entirely incompatible with capitalism.

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69 points

Then explain why the chad in this meme is on the side of the capitalism

You can’t, and your argument lays in shambles

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Then I’m left with no choice but to depict myself as the gigachad

I was hoping to avoid such extreme measures

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19 points

I reneige

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Removed by mod
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20 points

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5 points

A Chad in his own mind - a deluded persona.

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15 points

What is the 196 sub? Why is the bad guy depicted as a Chad?

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35 points

What is the 196 sub?

Shitposting community that is expressly LGBT+ affirming and trends leftist (see stickied posts, for example)

Why is the bad guy depicted as a Chad?

Good question lol. Maybe because the person who doesn’t look like a male stereotype is the reasonable person in this post?

Do we get a poem?

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Although I’m just a cheap knockoff, here you go:

Festive nowadays

A day, tiny chad screeches

Beyond the sausage

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5 points

Are you the same Sprog who was on askreddit?

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1 point

Outside of incel memes when is the Chad ever the good guy?

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9 points

Technically, anarchism is incompatible with communism, fascism, and socialism, as all of those require the state to exist in some way if undertaken at the national scale.

Anarcho-capitalism makes the most sense of them all. Just say you don’t want a state to exist at all because you want to suck some robber baron/warlord’s cock.

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29 points

Which do you not understand: anarchism or communism? Communism is a stateless, classless society. It does not require a state, and it is perfectly compatible with anarchism. In fact, within any form of anarchism you’d find communism.

Anarchism is no state and no hierarchies. In any form, it seeks horizontality and mutual aid. It is absolutely unhinged to think that’s compatible in any way with capitalism.

Jfc the media has really succeeded in deluding people about what anarchism is, haven’t they? The surprising thing is I’d expect that on, say, Facebook or 4chan or Stormfront, but I thought 196 was more … leftist

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I thought 196 was more … leftist

Unfortunately once there are more than a few votes a post will reach /all, making it visible on all instances, and with that come… the others… lol

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14 points

Ancaps and tankies are everywhere these days. No good place for an old fashioned ancom anymore.

Then again, same as it ever was.

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It’s because capitalism the pejorative is distinct from capitalism the naturalistic economic theory and a lot of people actively refuse to understand this. Unless your anarchist society is truly post-scarcity, you will end up with commerce and value proxies regardless of how much you wish otherwise. And even in a material post-scarcity society, there will still be scarcity in the form of things like artistic talent, companionship, etc. If you don’t want to call that capitalism, then you might as well just define capitalism as monsters under your bed.

There is no post-capitalist society besides the one focused on harm reduction. And then there is no utopia, no end goal, only an eternal struggle to combat the evils of where material scarcity and human greed intersect.

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You misspelled utopia. Not sure what reality you’d expect humans to create a stateless and classless “communism” outside the hippie commune out in the woods.

The comment you replied to even said “at a national scale.” That’s the rub, isn’t it?

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Communism requires someone to distribute goods and assign labor. That person is effectively going to be your state at essentially any scale above a family.

And if you want to live in a developed society, you need a state to defend against invasion and colonization, arrest murderers and rapists, and regulate trade (even if trade is only external).

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23 points

Communism is a stateless, moneyless, classless society. In what way is that incompatible with anarchism, the ideology based on the elimination of heirarchy (the state)?

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Modulo MLs defining state to mean “any method of organising a society” in which case not even anarchism is stateless because yes of course we’re doing that. The common politological understanding of state is more or less along those lines, too. I propose to not get anything in any twists over definitions.

Anything is only incompatible with anarchism insofar as it inflicts hierarchical power. Certain stuff at least some people call communism most certainly falls under that umbrella (though even Lenin admitted it was state capitalism), others are compatible or at least very close. Classical council communism certainly looks awfully like anarcho-syndicalism.

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Tell me you know nothing about anarchism, communism, fascism, or socialism, without saying you know nothing about anarchism, communism, fascism, or socialism lol…

https://medium.com/international-workers-press/misconceptions-about-communism-2e366f1ef51f

https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionA.html#seca2

https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

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12 points

Are Ancaps aware they could just…suck a dick without the rest right? I mean if dick in mouth is the endgame they could just get right to it.

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8 points

A state, according to the average anarchist, is a society ruled by rulers who make decisions for you.

Resource distribution and factory management could absolutely be planned without a central planner under socialism/communism/whatever. Capitalism, on the other hand, needs bosses and police officers that protect the boss’s property. Fascism doesn’t require an explanation IMO.

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4 points

Whoever is making the decisions about distribution and factory management is effectively a state at that point.

There’s also the fact that generally, people want to live in developed nations. You’ll need a military to keep your neighboring countries from taking all your stuff/people/land, and you’ll need some kind of police force to keep those few assholes you have internally from just kidnapping people or stealing everything that isn’t nailed down whatever.

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Anarchism is incompatible with anarchism. It will exist until some group or some groups take power and finish anarchism

Power vacuum inevitable leads to people trying to fill this vacuum

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That’s your opinion, and that’s all addressed by anarchist theory. It seems to me you’re just shooting from the hip and parroting anti-anarchist propaganda you’ve been fed all of your life.

Edit: Blocked because “anarchism is incompatible with anarchism” is some of the most utterly baffling pseudo-intellectual horseshit it’s been my displeasure to read. I need to wash my eyes after seeing those words on the screen.

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6 points

It’s absolutely hilarious how bro is like “you are brainwashed by anti-anarchist propaganda” and then literally blocks gently dissenting opinions.

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Maybe if it was a joke about leftist infighting it’d be understandable

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