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It does. The term liberal comes from liberalism, which was founded during the Enlightenment. It isn’t an “American” thing to tie liberalism to liberals, it’s the definition.

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It’s the definition when you’re talking about liberalism for sure. But that’s not what I’m referring to. The other definition is the one which, in context, I am obviously referring to.

one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways

With the previous definition, it is clear I am talking about leftists. Context is king.

But, lesson learned; don’t use the phrase liberal outside of a philosophical/academic context.

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Leftism isn’t a vague, general synonym for “goodness,” nor does it entitled you to use terminology for a right-wing ideology as a synonym for leftism. Even in a philosophical and academic concept, you’d get a bunch of confused looks.

  1. Capitalists can be open-minded and go against tradition without being left-wing.

  2. Left vs. Right isn’t about open-mindedness or a sense of futurism, it’s about collective vs. individual ownership of the Means of Production.

  3. Using an Enlightenment term for a Capitalist ideology as a term to describe leftists is wrong.

That’s why everyone has been pointing out that you’ve been using terms incorrectly. You can either accept that you misspoke, and everyone can move on, or we will be stuck here.

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Honestly, let’s be stuck here. I’m tired of repeating myself. There’s nothing to be gained here, you understand what I was trying to say, even if you think my words were wrong, and that’s good enough for me.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not heated, I appreciate that you’ve helped me to understand that I can’t say liberal on the internet because people will misunderstand my intention.

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