He also said that the danger posed by another Trump term doesn’t excuse Biden from scrutiny but “actually makes him more subject to scrutiny.”

To leftists and progressives fed up with Biden, particularly his commitment to Israel as it continues to bomb civilians in Gaza, the assessment was not just fair — it was obvious. But more centrist Democrats, including those most likely to have appended “Blue Wave” and “Resistance” labels to their social media accounts in the Trump years, were appalled at what they saw as a betrayal by one of their own.

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I think people forget that the Democrats literally chose Hillary instead of Sanders - like, the Democratic Party purposefully chose Hillary despite the fact Bernie was actually more popular amongst people.

Tell me you don’t remember 2016 without telling me you don’t remember 2016.

Signed, a 2016 and 2020 Bernie voter.

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As a fellow Bernie bro in 2016, do you not remember how many friggin memes were made with Bernie as Rick from Rick and Morty and how many people were talking about not wanting another Clinton in office? Only for him to pull out of the race and endorsing Hillary because Trump was actually getting waaaaay too much traction? And the fact the DNC also weren’t really jazzed with what Bernie was saying in general?

Tell me you don’t remember 2016 without telling me you don’t remember 2016.

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Only for him to pull out of the race and endorsing Hillary because Trump was actually getting waaaaay too much traction?

Yeah, you definitely don’t remember 2016. Bernie stayed in and fought up until the national convention, and was widely criticized (unfairly) for it.

And the fact the DNC also weren’t really jazzed with what Bernie was saying in general?

That’s vastly different than suggesting that the Democratic Party ‘chose’ Hillary despite the fact that Bernie was ‘actually more popular’.

We failed to get the vote out. We failed to rally voters to Sanders. That’s on us, or, perhaps, our fellow members of the electorate. Bernie was, unfortunately, never in striking range of the nomination, though he did better than almost anyone thought he would, and greatly improved his national profile.

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I think you’re really misinterpreting OP’s argument. When he says the Democratic Party chose Bernie, I don’t think he’s saying “democrats as a whole” chose Bernie, but that the higher-ups in charge of the DNC chose Bernie, and that he lost the primary largely because of that minority.

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I did forget he fought to the bitter end till the DNC back in 2016 (jfc it’s been 8 years!), but he endorsed Hillary like, 2 weeks before the 2016 DNC.

I’ll leave the Wikipedia link here, but the DNC actively hated what Bernie was doing and basically were pro-Clinton from the start according to that email leak from right before the convention. So the Democratic Party effectively chose Hillary because they didn’t want Bernie on because they actively disliked his campaign. He was more popular than Hillary was, but ultimately Hillary was chosen by the Democratic Party.

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what killed bernie’s chances in 2016 was the total lack of grassroots efforts in turning out and supporting viable progressive candidates in 2010, 2012, and 2014. both the party and the base thought that with obama in, everything would be solved and there wasn’t any more work that needed to be done. instead the house got lost in 2010 and the thinking was in order to regain power the dems had to be more like republicans instead of, well you know, democrats. none of the progressive groups ever pushed their people to run for democratic party positions which would have made it easier for a bernie or similar candidate to be taken seriously.

and that’s why we have biden: he’s a known quality, and the black women of south carolina trusted him over the other white old guy who has ideas that would probably benefit them more but were never exposed to in local political races.

if you want the party to start shifting in your political direction, just voting isn’t going to cut it. you’re going to have to actually get involved in the local party. I wonder how many progressives would even do that or once again tune out if their pet candidate doesn’t win.

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Sorry… you’re basing this all on memes?

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Pretty sure they mean the DNC, not the voters.

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