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When Trump was president Europe was distancing itself from the US and starting to co-operate economically more with China. The fact that Trump was hated was a good thing. Now all of that has been reversed and more. Europe is deeper than ever in the pocket of the US which is catastrophic for Europe and the world. Domestically Trump also provoked much more resistance whereas Democrat presidencies not only demobilize the masses, they lull them into actively supporting reactionary imperialist policies like the proxy war on Russia.

Trump was objectively a weaker president as he was hated by the establishment state apparatus, and a weak US in internal conflict with itself is a good thing for the world.

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So, you’re advocating accelerationism. The idea that a push towards fascism and reactionary politics will provoke revolution. A philosophy often inspired by Marx’s dialectical materialism, which claims that communism is the inevitable result of capitalist crisis. The thing is, in Marx’s time it was reasonable to assume that capitalism was incapable of ending human life on earth. Now we know twice over that it can, and once over that unabated it will. Accelerationism is fundamentally a philosophy of waiting for things to get better on their own. We don’t have that luxury anymore. We’re out of time to prevent climate collapse, and mitigating it has to start right now. Accelerationism only makes the deadline shorter, giving us less to work with. Who cares if capitalism eventually collapses under its own weight, if it brings all of us with it?

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So, you’re advocating accelerationism.

No, if i was doing that i would say to vote for Biden.

The only thing i’m saying is i personally couldn’t bring myself to vote for Genocide Joe. Or for anyone associated with either of the two main warmongering imperialist parties in the US for that matter (and that includes Bernie who betrayed all those who bought his “democratic socialist” act, bent the knee to the establishment, and has revealed himself for the imperialist warmonger many of us already knew he was ever since he supported the bombing of Yugoslavia).

We’re out of time to prevent climate collapse, and mitigating it has to start right now.

Yeah, too bad that the US under Biden committed the biggest act of ecological terrorism in history by blowing up the Nordstream pipeline, forcing Europe into a dependency on expensive US LNG shipped by highly polluting tankers across an entire ocean… Germany is burning more fossil fuel than ever, and at the behest of the neocon warmongers in the Washington NATO wants to massively ramp up military production and is foaming at the mouth to go to war with Russia, Iran and China essentially simultaneously. Do i need to remind you that militaries are among the worst polluters on the planet?

Doesn’t look to me like Biden mitigated much of anything. In fact i struggle to see much of a difference in policy at all between Democrats and Republicans, only in how they are perceived and how much pushback they get.

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I’ve seen no evidence that Biden intends to escalate the war on Ukraine beyond the local area, nor that he intends war with China. As you agreed, the international community has no better view of Trump than Biden, so I don’t expect a Biden victory in the election to cause China to declare war. What I have seen is that Biden has begun responding to pressure to reduce the supply of arms to Israel.

As for Russian fuel, I have no reason to disbelieve you when you say Biden has increased the carbon cost of transporting fuel. However he has also increased the price of fuel, creating greater incentives for Europe to quickly adopt electric vehicles and public transit. America and Russia are both polluting capitalist empires. I am happy there is less reason to buy fuel from both of them. The situation in Germany isn’t a result of the war, it’s caused by the decommission of nuclear plants without a renewable replacement. That’s a problem in its own right, but it’s not Biden’s fault. You’re mixing up US election results with unrelated things.

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The leveling of world wages, and making poor countries less poor, is not accelerationism.

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