Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) went after former President Trump for his legal woes in an interview on MSNBC Saturday.
âIâll take the individual whoâs 81 over the guy who has 91 felony counts,â Swalwell said, making a reference to President Bidenâs age in an interview on MSNBCâs âThe Katie Phang Showâ on Saturday.
âItâs not about two individuals,â Swalwell continued, speaking about the 2024 election. âItâs about the idea of competence versus chaos, or even greater, freedom versus fascism. If we make it about those ideas, and what they mean in our daily lives, weâre gonna win.â
Swalwellâs comments come after Trump was ordered to pay almost $355 million in penalties in a civil fraud case and amid increased scrutiny faced by the president on his age and memory in the wake of a special counsel report on Bidenâs handling of classified documents. The report noted that Biden had problems with memory and recall.
The comments by septics on Bidenâs age reek of ageism.
His age is irrelevant. Can he do the fucking job?
Yes?
Then vote for him.
The poor bastard is destroying his retirement, health and twilight years to stop the US falling to fascism and all you can do is whine about his age?
I donât think itâs particularly ageist to say that octogenarians should generally be avoided for a 4 year commitment to leadership roles. Itâs no more ageist than barring 16 year olds from the job imo.
That said, in a battle between risky to lose competence midway and blatantly incompetent now the former always wins
Agreed. That being said it sucks to be stuck choosing between two ppl who wonât live long enough to see the ramifications of their decisions and policies.
I donât see how that matters. Do you think Clinton, Bush or Obama made better choices because they got to live to see the outcomes materialize? I donât think so which is why I donât think it matters.
You want a president who makes decisions that benefit the people not a president who makes decision s that benefit them (or a group of elites). In that sense it doesnât matter if Biden wonât see the results of his decisions, as long as he makes decisions that benefit the people. When it comes to Trump we can now be pretty certain he will make decisions that benefit him.
Trump isnât exactly a spring chicken either. He now has a half a billion dollars in judgements that he owes in addition to being within 4 years of Bidenâs age. The issue is the double standard and blatant disregard for the fact that he has numerous conflicts of interest that should disqualify Trump
I think it is different, 16 year olds have no experience, limited knowledge of the world, and under developed pre frontal lobes. You want experienced leaders with wisdom, much more than inexperienced leaders with a lack of wisdom, they arenât equivalent
Yes, itâs obviously a different scenario. The risks are different. But, along with wisdom, you want presidents to be alive.
When Biden took office in 2020, he was 78. The governmentâs actuarial tables say that there was basically a 50/50 chance heâd make it 8 years.
Having survived 4 years, if heâs elected again heâll be 82. The actuarial tables say heâll probably still be alive at the end of his term, but he might not make it to the next set of midterms.
Now, Biden is in good health. With his health and the great medical care he gets, heâll probably do better than the actuarial tables say. Iâd say the odds are good heâll outlive Trump, even if heâs an older man. But, it seems reckless to put a guy into office when thereâs a very decent chance heâll be dead before the end of his term.
Then thereâs the matter of his mental sharpness. There are strong signs itâs fading. President is mostly a job about delegation, but still, you need to make some decisions, and at least understand what it is youâre delegating. Trump, again, is probably as bad or worse, but it doesnât seem good to trust a guy with clearly fading mental abilities to a stressful job that benefits from a sharp mind.
If we all trusted his VP to step in and run things well if there were a problem, that would be one thing, but her approval ratings are even worse than his. Sometimes that happens when a president doesnât want the VP to steal the spotlight. But, in this case youâd think both Biden and Harris would benefit from everybody thinking that sheâs doing a lot of work, doing it extremely well, and could easily step in as president.
He canât do the job. Heâs a terrible candidate and heâs not mentally fit. His only qualification is that heâs not openly fascist. Definitely vote for the not fascist, but that wonât stop fascism in the long run.
Being forced to choose between senile and psychotic is fucking bullshit, and Iâm sick of being told to just suck it up.
Yeah, I mean, beyond senile. He doesnât even pass for human, heâs indistinguishable from a racist LLM. Fuck heâs not even an LLM, heâs a Markov model.
Afghanistan withdrawal alone was a fucking abortion. SO hella dumb, SO rushed, I mean that was done in the worst way possible. We left so much shit behind, we didnât destroy it, we didnât burn it up & just shoot the shit out of the Taliban before we left, we left our people there with no way home, what was it 13 American soldiers died?? It couldnât have been done any worse. And thatâs on Bidenâs head, thatâs on all the people that just went along with it & were like, âOkay, whatever you say President Potato Headâ.
Itâs just not enough to say these people shit the bed with Afghanistan. They shit the bed multiple times, rolled around in their filth, slaughtered a goat on the bed, lit the bed on fire, tried to put the fire out by spraying it with gasoline, burning down the whole goddamn house, and shuttling in the Taliban in a full service limo on the American dime to do a Gangnam Style breakdance where the house once stood.
Biden is putting the country at serious risk of having another Trump term vs if he were to concede to literally any other Democrat.
Voter shaming has never worked as a strategy and has only made people want to be less involved in politics. People need something to vote for, not against.
Also note how both sources strongly lean towards the Democratic Party. Not like Iâm citing Fox here.
More evidence of low voter turnout with Biden: https://news.yahoo.com/only-4-registered-voters-show-122000488.html
Biden performs better against Trump than Newsom or Harris. Name another democrat even close to having the name recognition to win the general election.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/amp/
Even in the link you posted, Biden is still down 1 point vs Trump. Thatâs not a risk that I think the country should take.
Also to answer your question, either Jon Stewart or Bernie would kick Trumpâs ass in a general. Yâknow, people who inspire people to get out and vote instead of staying home because âboth sides are shit anyway, whatâs the point?â
Age-related cognitive decline is real and inescapable. All people over 80 have declining mental abilities, less ability to handle stress, etc. Old age is fundamentally a handicap and to suggest it isnât is a delusion.
Providing the weapons for a genocide is not doing the job.
Ignoring people saying we wonât vote for genocide with the strategy of âVote Harder!â is stupid and dangerous if you believe the alternative is the end of democracy.
Edit: people here are mad at the people saying âwe wonât vote for genocideâ but not at the person directly responsible for the mass murder of babies.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
To all those downvoting or responding with âheâs all we haveâ, be honest: fucking outright say âIâm willing to have babies slaughtered to prevent Trump.â That is a choice you are making. Have the courage of your convictions and say it out loud.
Look at the cost you are paying without flinching.
Providing the weapons for a genocide is not doing the job.
Actually, it kind of is. America has interests in the middle-east and Israel is key to them. Plus, the rich warmongers who own all our politicians want this. So it doesnât matter who is in the White House, the weapons will flow.
Ignoring people saying we wonât vote for genocide with the strategy of âVote Harder!â is stupid and dangerous of you believe the alternative is the end of democracy.
Ignoring people ignorant of the bigger picture is how we keep the entire house from burning down. Trump will literally do everything most Democrats donât want while Biden only does a few. If youâre willing to throw away everything over a few issues, then youâve failed to be an educated voter.
How many dead and murdered children do I need to walk over to be an educated voter?
Youâre literally happy justifying genocide.
Also, I just cannot believe Trump can be both wildly incompetent and the end of democracy at the same time. Do i want him at the helm? Fuck no, those 4 years aged me like 10, the next 4 might kill me.
But will he be the guy who âends democracyâ? Fucking lol. Weâre all here, weve all experienced the last decade, we have had front row seats to âthe endâ. Its dying with him or without him.
Trump is just a grifter. Hes a symptom, not the cause.
