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How Roegan is so fucking stupid it blows my mind that people listen to a word that comes out of his stupid fucking mouth

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Want a simple explanation?

The ignorant BEG to be led. And because they’re not qualified at all to know if whoever ends up with the job is dumber than they are- they ultimately end up marching in lock-step behind them oblivious of the fact that they’re just marching in circles.

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Led by someone who doesn’t make them feel stupid. Because being stupid is bad and they aren’t bad.

But they are stupid. And that isn’t bad. I don’t look down on stupid people for being stupid. I judge them because they do stupid shit, like following stupid people.

I’ve too well versed in history to ignore the threat of the stupid leading the stupid. Idiocracy is a utopian version of stupid people taking over. The reality is also bloody.

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It’s worse than that, he knows exactly what he’s doing, he’s taking advantage of rubes for profit. He has decided that making the world a worse place is worth it if he gets rich, he’s just the latest in the Rush Limbaugh > Alex Jones cycle.

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I wonder if this could be co-opted by other messaging, like could you start a podcast and end up with a fanatically devoted fanbase of pastry chefs? Or what about carpenters? With the right wardrobe, set design and rhetoric, could you build a fantical base of young men devoted to the concept that building a house is the ultimate expression of manliness?

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I know a guy who started going down the rabbit hole following the crazy MMA nuts like Tate and Rogan and his excuse was " they advocate for working on yourself and training" my question was aren’t there a million wholesome dudes with MMA/workout channels teaching the same life lessons? The answer is yes. Of course. He was able to find like 10 by the end of that work day. The issue is exactly what you say, these dudes,

With the right wardrobe, set design and rhetoric

just have to focus on marketing their bullshit because the groundwork has already been laid by other chauvinists, misogynists and chicken-hawks before them, they just have to fit it in and repeat.

The whole thing is fucked.

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It’s possible but I think part of the problem is that these men are targeting personal and cultural insecurities about manhood. As we move away from glorifying masculinity’s violent side these men sell the idea that that’s a problem. And beyond that they sell the idea that you can embody it. It’s why they can show up in varieties like pick up artists but never as like loving and involved dads no matter how much they lament the lack of prioritizing of fathers.

Nobody is criticizing men for woodworking or cooking pastries.

That said I do think that more could probably be done by men to appeal to young men and encourage such pursuits in a healthy and constructive way. I know a friend of mine growing up really appreciated Nick Offerman’s brand of masculinity.

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