Comment by RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net on What have we come to america?

Biden ameria is what Happened… the rise in food pri ces, the defunding of police, the unemployment, sending our taxes to fund Hunter’s war against Putin in Ukraine… it’s all apart of The communist agenda.

I can think of a better fix

Palestinians should just vote out the Israelis tbqh.

Whatever you gotta do to feel right, I suppose.

The fact that they’re right helps, i suppose

You’re talking about electoralism when this is an issue where the vast majority of voters have nobody to vote for that actually aligns with their interests. Do you vote for Biden the senile Zionist or Trump the deranged Zionist?

You want to work within the system? Make a billion dollars doing something morally depraved and bribe the politcians yourself. It’s just as unrealistic as voooooting your way to progress and more effective.

I remember believing that. Then I saw the Democratic party cheat and gaslight the public into thinking theres any real democracy in their primary.

It’s Joever, dude. Democracy is dead

That’s an assumption you’ve made, and its not factual. It’s a supposition of fact that you shpuld treat with appropriate skepticism

it will always be easier to engage in what already exists.

Yes, that’s why everyone in this thread is explaining to you why that’s bad.

what they’re beholden to

Capital. The answer is always kapital.

You: “I disagree with Ogodei Khan’s’s policies and the Mongol Empire is collapsing on multiple fronts, if only we declare Kublai Khan the Great Khan at the Kurultai then the true will of the people will prevail and the empire will be cured!”

makes a wordcel statement that is so vague there literally isn’t anything specific to prove or disprove

people ignore you because even chat-gpt comes up with more coherent thoughts than this

declare victory

There is no difference between good things and bad things you imbecile, you fucking moron

You’ve got it. Just harder lib

at our current rate of economic and ecological breakdown we don’t really have the time or resources to form a better structure.

Which is why we need to do a slow incrementalism by voting?

it’s easier to fix the system than replace it.

If we can’t even decide on basic shit like “is the earth warming at a rate that is hostile to life” how are we supposed to form a new cohesive government? It’s going to be hard enough electing decent people to any structure you can think of.

You yourself are making our point for why liberal democracy cannot fix itself. We can’t form a “cohesive government” as you say within this system. That’s why its necessary for this system to end.

You will never be able to elect “decent people” because you, us, the people do not have a say in who they get to vote for. This government does not exist for us, and it is not a democracy for us. And it never will be, until the power of capital is broken

“Who am I supposed to vote for Ben, Aquaman?”

Sure. Get back to me on how that works out.

Lmao ok, what is that even supposed to mean

be more aware of who the people we cast votes for and what they’re beholden to, but that’s not sexy enough for hexbear users.

They’re all bloodthirsty zionists and neocons

People are clowning on you because of the naive electoralism and because you come from a instance but you’re not completely wrong. You just need to go a step further and realize that what the system is doing now is what it was designed to do. Working within it is not going to get you anywhere. Also the guy you’re replying to is joking.

You just need to go a step further and realize that what the system is doing now is what it was designed to do

That’s the key thing with all well meaning lib arguements. They believe their system is broken, when in fact its working perfectly and it was never their system to begin with

It’s broken for the people.

It’s working for those in power.

Thats how liberal democracy is intended to work you fucking lib shit!!!

That’s what i just said and you read and you still don’t get it, because you don’t have a fucking clue what you’re talking about

echo chamber

No communist in the west lives in an echo chamber. We hear your view - the fatalistic lib, capitalist realism veiw everywhere. You literally live in an echo chamber - its called the US, the most propagandized nation on earth

Dont worry comrade ill make sure to vote for Hillary Clinton in this election since you people got mad at me for not doing so in 2016

The software you’re using was written by a communist lmao. Lemmy was just us and Lemmygrad/lemmy.ml for years before you rddit NPCs decided to freak out over some rddit bullshit and make a thousand reddit clones. Now every once in a while we get to see you basement dwellers accidentally walk outside your echo chamber and freak out.

everyone else

15 liberals that couldn’t put an original thought together to save their lives.

I don’t really care, it doesn’t make them any more right 🤣

^ you right now.

I don’t really care

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Get a load of this lib.

Congress functions to serve the owner class and has for its entire existence. It started out serving, exclusively, white land-owning men as part of a slave nation.

It will not do anything else, ever. It is baked in and will only stop doing so when the owner class itself is subjugated, something that will only happen via revolution. It would be nice if that wasn’t necessary and the ruling class could just let their power get voted out, but we don’t have the luxury of such fantasies.

The only fix? Voting harder? You’re really tipping your hand when it comes to your total lack of imagination or investment in actually improving things.

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Slop posts go in c/slop. Don’t post low-hanging fruit here.

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