You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
-7 points

Never said that, but smugly refusing to participate because it’s flawed is not an effective path toward fixing it. Conservatives have been gutting civil liberties by patiently toeing the line and playing by the rules of the game to develop their position over decades. Progressives have been splitting vote (or just straight up not voting) because they let their ideals prevent them from compromising on winning strategies.

Ideals and principles are great guiding stars to aim toward, and I desperately hope to live to see fully automated luxury gay space communism, but refusing to vote for the lesser evil isn’t getting us any closer. It’s just bringing us closer to an actual fascist United States.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Who’s “smugly refusing” though? I’m bristling at the suggestion that a sitting president should be immune from criticism, especially one who is ACTIVELY supporting genocide!

an actual fascist United States.

I’ve got bad news for you about us. We’re already a fascist state. Yes, it can get worse, but just the existence of agencies like ICE and our entire fucked up history paints a grim picture of what we are.

So if you’re telling me my only choices are either a genocidal maniac or a slightly less genocidal maniac, then I’ll tell you we do not have a democracy. That is NOT a democracy that you’re describing. You admit this, right?

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Only incredibly privileged or naive people are able to view this system as ‘flawed’. It works perfectly.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-8 points

Every system is flawed. Some flaws are within acceptable tolerances. “Acceptable” is a largely subjective measure.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Supporting genocidal actions is not an acceptable tolerance.

It’s a hard line and if you people want to support someone that does something like that, no matter which side or on then we deserve whatever fucking comes to us.

Arm yourselves, and be ready, learn how to grow plants and how to hunt.

Between potatoes and greens and beans. You can survive for a while on a nutritious fucking diet even when shit starts gets scarce.

It’ll be hard, but we will make it.

I’m not even suggesting for prepper shit, just stuff that was common knowledge less than 100 years ago that we forgotten because of the society that we have now.

Hell, I own grow bags that I could hang out in an apartment window and grow stuff 20 feet off the ground with no balcony

Before he went to jump down my throat, I mean, no one really knows where their food comes from anymore or how to throw their own.

I am making no assertions other than that when I talk about the things that society has forgotten because of the way it is now

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

I don’t find a system that provides me with only two choices – one being a candidate who actively persecutes immigrants and Native people and denies people basic rights like housing and healthcare while sending arms to genocidal regimes, and the other being the same but also wanting to establish a theotratic autocracy – to fall within the acceptable range. I’d probably not listen to anyone who finds this situation remotely acceptable.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-9 points

The “why should I vote” brigade are just making excuses for their laziness. Slacktivism is not a benefit to society like they think.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

The “why should I vote” brigade

Show me where they are in this thread. They’re not here.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-4 points

That sounds like someone talking to the police.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Community stats

  • 1.8K

    Monthly active users

  • 402

    Posts

  • 4.9K

    Comments

Community moderators