Was there even a mass exodus? I largely avoid Reddit now, but I do kind of doubt that they’ve been hurt in any meaningful way by all the protests and people leaving…

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Migration goes beyond sheer numbers. The 3.8k users are probably the one that were the most attached to initial Reddit, hence people who would contribute the more. I would rather be with those 3.8k users than the millions of people okay with staying on Reddit despite Spez’s decisions.

I hope that once Lemmy is a bit more polished (instance blocking, account migration, hot filtering working etc.), we will gradually see a second wave of arrivals.

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This is a big issue of eu regulations. They are needed, but don’t account for non profit initiatives, in practice favoring big players

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It’s currently impossible to follow a GDPR information delete request for example, because you can’t delete the info from other instances.

What makes it impossible? Why would any given instance maintainer be responsible for the data on someone else’s instance? Would it not fall on the GDPR requester to make that request of each individual instance?

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See https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/right-to-be-forgotten/

Once the “controller has made the personal data public”, they have legal obligations.

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But if that were the case, wouldn’t GDPR already be used to take down TOR or torrents or any other p2p tech? All it would take is someone’s personal information being on them, right? (I’m really asking I have no idea)

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That’s a good point. Right now if I send something out, even if the company I submitted it to deletes it from their servers, doesn’t mean other users will delete copies of the data I want to have deleted. Only the party I submitted it to will have to delete it.

Just take a screenshot of a tweet or a LinkedIn profile or whatever someone posts here in the Fediverse, anyone can capture a copy of it.

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I’m never to sure about GDPR. The spirit of the law is that any identifiable information has to indeed be removed.

However, does a Lemmy username really fit that definition? If John Doe has all of his Lemmy content under CoolNick89, I’m not sure GDPR applies.

Emails, especially if they contain first and last name, are a different story, but those would only be known by the host instance.

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The law specifically names “online identifier”.

The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data.

https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/

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Well, the upside and the downside of GDPR is that if you’re not a member of the EU, you can basically just tell them to go fuck themselves because they have little to no actual power to impact you since you’re not within their jurisdiction.

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Makes me wonder if the fediverse shouldn’t be individually instanced. Like Each persons phone/browser is their own individual “instance”. Maybe a central hub/series of hubs (like instances as they are now maybe) that act like dns servers to point everyone around. No content is hosted on them, they just tell everyone’s apps where to look to the other apps for posts.

I have no idea, I’m a moron and I don’t know how the internet actually works. I’m guessing this is a problem at scale.

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You’re not a moron, you were slightly right with dns. You’re idea is actually quite sound and it’s something I’m interested in also. Basically p2p social networking.

We used to be able to stream 1080p via torrent stream p2p. We could do it.

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Or those 3.8k users were on Apollo, RIF etc that didn’t bring any revenue to Reddit regardless.

They could care less about these users leaving, there are plenty of new angsty teenagers to take their place

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A very good point. To be honest, if they are happy with that new demographic, and we are happy here, everyone’s happy

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If they’re the same that generated significantly more content, then it’s still a loss for reddit

It doesn’t really matter, though. The fact that I’m here and not using reddit has netted a huge improvement in my happiness.

To be honest, I don’t really care if more reddit users come here. They can keep their bad takes and dick-swinging contests on reddit.

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The next wave won’t come until Lemmy post are indexed by google and ranking up on the first page. Until then, searching for obscure things will still land on old Reddit posts.

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Depending on the domain, Reddit content might get outdated quite fast (definitely true for tech content).

Even creative fields such as fantheories and such will probably emerge on Lemmy once new shows are released (Futurama could be a good example).

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Unfortunately, as one of those 3.8k daily users, I’m still using Reddit mostly. Lemmy has a long way to go before I drop Reddit all the way.

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That’s fine, really. There is no rush, the only people setting deadlines here were Reddit, and they still have to actually do something about killing access to 3rd parties (I know a lot of people still use 3rd party apps with Revanced keys)

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instance blocking

What’s that?

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The ability to block a whole instance instead of each community as we can know

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The 3.8k users are probably the one that were the most attached to initial Reddit, hence people who would contribute the more.

I had 2 million karma and would hit the frontpage of All almost weekly. I stopped using Reddit once I came here.

https://www.reddit.com/user/return2ozma

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