Comment by Bonehead@kbin.social on You know what they say about assumptions...

To be fair, John Cho played Sulu straight until it was revealed that he was gay. And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Unless you count bringing a sword to a skydiving phaser fight, but I’d consider that more bad ass than gay.

And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting.

Care to elaborate?

What is there to elaborate? Other than a brief embrace shown on screen, he didn’t appear to play the role in any stereotypical gay manner. That’s all…

Why would the character be a stereotype?

I didn’t say he was. That’s the entire point. They briefly showed some gay characteristics on screen, but otherwise he just played the character plainly.

Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature.

I’m assuming you don’t believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies?

So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would “gayness” to John Cho’s acting mean?

I’m not playing this game. You’re obviously looking for a confrontation. You’ll have to find someone else to play with.

He wasn’t a Hollywood camp gay stereotype character.

Why would anyone think he would be?

Because usually when Hollywood includes a gay character they’re doing it to villainize them, make fun of them, or show them off to cynically virtue-signal diversity. Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare.

Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare.

I don’t know if that’s as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was.

Someone didn’t read the Hays Code or anything. He didn’t die (kill your gays trope), he’s not portrayed as a “for ever” bachelor (but has a same sex partner, very ungay). Only thing is crossdressing. He wears the same standard uniform that women do in Starfleet.

Isn’t there a scene where he means his husband?

I assume you mean “meet his husband”, but yes. There is a scene Into Darkness with his husband and daughter. But other than that and maybe a few mentions that you’d miss if you weren’t paying attention, they didn’t really put the character’s gayness on display.

Sure but apparently there wasn’t much gayness to it

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