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I feel like people are so fixated on Trump that they can’t see past him.

Well yeah, because if he wins there won’t be anything past him for much of the country.

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But what can you really do? Not voting is beneficial to the open christo fascists, and the only person who has any real world shot at winning an election, for some mind melting reason Joe Biden. The same Joe Biden, who despite his kinda actually not terrible first term, is currently funding a genocide as the wold watches. It’s a shit choice, but this problem isnt going to be fixed this cycle. It’s like punching the clock.

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Biden isn’t the only one who could win, and seems to be worse off than a generic dem in swing States, by a long shot. They’re choosing the candidate again, like they did with Hillary, from the ranks of the least popular people in the US. They’re shooting themselves and blaming the left and Muslims in MI already.

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I agree with you completely. I think the DNC is going to do what they want, and it will take time and deliberate action to change them. This cycle is going to be a Trump/Biden election. I don’t see a way around it. Here’s to 2026 and 2028 for making progress with elections. In the meantime we still have to donate and support with our time.

I’ll be volunteering for Biden, because that’s the best cause I believe I can support during this election. Doesn’t mean I’m super pumped on him being the candidate.

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But what can you really do?

Not give into cynicism and participate in the democratic process? Democracy isn’t something that you can set and forget, it requires constant attention and participation or it breaks. We are where we’re at because the GOP and big corporations have been carefully engineering widespread burnout in a large percentage of the working class population.

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Oh for sure. I’m just saying the DNC is going to put up Biden, no matter what, so that’s our choice this round. Action can be taken for 2028, but be real… They’re not going to change horses.

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OK? What if Biden wins, is my question. Is the Democrat value-proposition nothing more than “periodic intervals of slightly slower slide into total fascism”?

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So, what’s your suggestion then?

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Fuck man, I’ve got a lot I guess. Like the kind of shit the Repubs do, but the Dems claim powerlessness to do. Trump has shown that the rule of law only matters if there is some consequence to breaking it. So break the law. Wield the power. Especially if you genuinely feel like this will be the last ever election. Fucking declare an emergency, arrest Trump and everyone else involved in J6. Send the military to reassert power over the national border in Texas. Break up media monopolies, and nationalize telecoms. Why the fuck would you risk losing an election to a criminal gang who want to end democracy?

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In what way have the Democrats advocated for sliding into fascism? They’re status quo politicians, not wannabe dictators like some other orange person.

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Intervals of “status quo” between fascist administrations is slow-walking into full fascism.

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Yes, that’s correct. Slower slide means more of a chance to fix it.

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Fix it how? Like what’s the plan? Is there a plan?

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No there is a lesser chance. The worse the conditions get for the more support fascism gets.

If Trump does not win this election, an even worse person will win the next one

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