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Depends on the estimates you use.

No it doesn’t. It’s not even close. In terms of the worst genocides in history by death toll, the U.S. doesn’t even make the top 10 list. Same with a more general list of anthropogenic disasters by death toll.

Leave that hurr durr US is big bad amirite shit on reddit.

Leave that hurr durr US is big bad amirite shit on reddit.

I think you misspelled China. Reddit being completely filled with imperial core propaganda is one of the main reasons a lot of us came to Lemmy.

Do you… Think that list is authoritative?

The population of Indigenous Americans is estimated to have decreased from approximately 145 million to around 10 million.

135 million.

Not all of that was the US, the old empires of France and Spain and England played a huge role, but since it’s founding the US has killed millions along with Canada and Mexico. Disease played a large role, but much of that was deliberately spread which muddies the estimates.

And that’s just one of the genocides the US was involved in. There have been many others.

Where is your list, or sources? Or should we just believe queermunist who I’m guessing is more sympathetic to communist nations?

No context? Your source that you posted even had Spain as killing millions of native Americans. For the USA itself - the trail of tears was 4,000-10,000. Most deaths were through disease.

So how again is the USA the most genocidal country on this planet? More than the holocaust? More than the Armenian genocide? The Killing Fields (Khmer rouge), Rwanda where 800,000 were killed in 100 days?

You are talking out of your ass, queermunist.

The Trail of Tears was one event among many others. The American Indian wars and Manifest Destiny saw the Native population decline from 600,000 to 250,000.

But the US doesn’t get to pretend it doesn’t inherit the genocide it was founded on! Killings that happened before 1776 were carried out by prominent colonial generals like George Washington before the Founding, and their forefathers like John Washington who the Iroquois named “devourer of villages”.

Let’s not forget the intentional hunting of buffalo to extinction in the wild by the US army, intended to starve the plains Natives to death or force them to flee. The US also had boarding schools like Canada, where they’d kidnap native children and brainwash them to be good little Christians that can’t even speak their native languages.

The fact that you think the genocide was limited to a single event like the Trail of Tears is disturbing.

Do you… Think that list is authoritative?

Do you… want to provide more authoritative sources? Or even just start with one? So far you’ve cited zero.

Remember, your original assertion was “the US is still the king of genocide.” Assuming your vague phrase of “king of genocide” means total number of people killed, then show an authoritative source that proves it, then we can talk.

My attention was originally brought to this by the book Lies My Teacher Told Me - I listened to an audiobook so sadly I can’t really search it for the relevant passage without investing a bunch of time. Instead, here’s the relevant Wikipedia article which covers it. “The population of Indigenous Americans is estimated to have decreased from approximately 145 million to around 7-15 million between the late 15th and late 17th centuries, representing a decline of around 90-95%.”

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