Kamel Abu Nahel, who was being treated for a gunshot wound at Shifa Hospital, said he and others went to the distribution point in the middle of the night because they heard there would be a delivery of food. “We’ve been eating animal feed for two months,” he added.

He said Israeli troops opened fire on the crowd, causing it to scatter, with some people hiding under cars.

After the shooting stopped, they went back to the trucks and the soldiers opened fire again. He was shot in the leg and fell over and then a truck ran over his leg as it sped off, he said.

Medics arriving at the scene on Thursday found “dozens or hundreds” lying on the ground, according to Fares Afana, the head of the ambulance service at Kamal Adwan Hospital.

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People are trying to shore up support for Biden by saying that Trump would be even worse, but Biden is literally letting this happen now. He’s not just letting it in fact, he’s taking measures like bypassing Congressional oversight to make sure weapons reach Israel. On average about 100 children die every day and hundreds more are wounded - that’s like a mid-sized k-9 school getting bombed every single day. Are American citizens supposed to view this as “restraint” and be thankful it’s “only” this bad?

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saying that Trump would be even worse

Do you disagree?

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Democrats should not be supporting genocide. And they shouldn’t be using “Trump would be worse” as an excuse to do so.

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On this specific issue? Kinda. Trump is bluster, and he’ll certainly try to undermine the constitution for his own gain (which would be an incredible loss for all of us), but i don’t think he cares enough about anything but himself to really commit to a foreign genocide.

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I do disagree, with nuance. Explaining would make for a long post, so the short(er) version is I think if Trump wins things stay about the same for Gazans - which is to say very desperately bad. Biden’s PR team has been talking about the need to reduce casualties and protect civilians for months now, the ICJ ruled that Israel must protect civilians and facilitate aid and yet there’s no sign of Israeli restraint. For corroborating evidence, Oxfam released a report in January that shows the daily death rate in Gaza is 2.5x that of 2nd place for the 21st century (Syria), 5x greater than Iraq or Ukraine wars, and over 10x worse than Afghanistan. According the UN’s humanitarian office, over 60% of housing has been fully or partially demolished and only 22.5% of primary health facilities are operational (among many other facts on that page). Given evidence like that I’m not sure what I’m supposed to believe Biden is preventing - his PR talk about reasonable measures and lasting peace is worthless when compared with actions and consequences. Some say it would be worse with Trump, but how, to what extent, and what is that assertion based on?

In the USA, things get much worse if Trump wins. I won’t go into the list of reasons why I think that because that would definitely be a long post. I’ll just say he’s a dictatorial, narcissistic criminal and leave it at that.

So another Trump term = about equal in Gaza (which is what this thread is about) because under Biden it’s already terrible, and things also get much worse in the USA. Biden is clearly the less harmful choice domestically, but provably Gazans are right now dying quickly with Western (primarily US) support regardless.

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