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Conservatism in the US is just a white supremacy movement these days. People need to realize that.

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I disagree, there are plenty of POC among conservatives. Some very vocal minorities within the larger conservative camp are essentially a white supremacy movement though.

What helps identify them to me is whether they’re more focused on social or fiscal issues. This doesn’t work for politicians since politicians rarely care about either, they care about whatever they think will get them the votes they want to get elected, but it works pretty well for average voters.

For example, if someone wants immigration control, figure out the root of it and attack that. If they think brown people are taking our jobs, show them that immigration is generally beneficial because it means companies can expand the “good” jobs if they have sufficient labor pool to fill the less desirable jobs (there are plenty of statistics to back this up). If they think women shouldn’t get abortions, show how long it takes women who have been attacked to report to the police (if they ever do). And so on. Take their concerns seriously and show them how an alternative perspective improves things without regressing on their concerns.

The same goes for people on the opposite end of the spectrum. Figure out what their concerns are and show how the policy you’d like to support doesn’t make this concerns worse, or how the policy could be amended to address their concerns.

Some people can’t be reasoned with because their root concern is unreasonable (e.g. block immigration because they hate foreigners), but that’s a very small subset of the population. Realize that most people have been lied to and aren’t basing their policy preferences on hate.

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There were Jewish Nazis too. Specifically Hitler’s personal driver was Jewish. So no, a minority In a group does not make that group not against similar minorities. For all the log cabin Republicans or female Republicans that should therefore mean that the Republican party could never be anti-gay or anti-woman. Yet that is one of the only consistent things they are.

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I’m just saying the white supremacists make up a small part of the overall conservative movement in the US.

The majority are against expansion of gay rights. That one makes no sense to me because the main premise at least used to be reducing government involvement in our lives, and gay people getting married has zero impact on anyone else’s life, so it should be allowed.

I wouldn’t classify conservatives as anti-woman though, they’re just in favor of protecting the rights of the unborn. If you believed that fetuses had human rights, you’d hold a similar position on abortion. So being anti-abortion doesn’t make you anti-woman. It’s a similar thing as being anti-assisted suicide.

We should be calling out actual white supremacists and fascists, not just using labels as a political tool.

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I disagree, there are plenty of POC among conservatives. Some very vocal minorities within the larger conservative camp are essentially a white supremacy movement though.

They got a state education curriculum to whitewash slavery. That’s a big enough minority to be downright afraid for the future.

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I read through the curriculum, and from what I could tell, there was one statement out of over a hundred pages of black history that people took issue with.

That statement had nothing to do with white-washing, it was pretty much the “when life gives you lemons, make lemonade” analogy. Former slaves were dealt a terrible hand, yet many of them were able to build a decent life for themselves despite the racism they definitely experienced after emancipation.

It’s amazing to me that less than 100 years after the Civil Rights movement, we had a black US President, and 100 years before the Civil Rights movement we were finally freeing slaves. We went from black people being legally considered less than a person, to being second class citizens, to running the country. We still have a ways to go, but we’ve made huge strides.

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