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I’m not voting for someone who’s pro genocide, sorry.

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And instead, a genocide will still be on, and also more women will go to prison for seeking medical care, and also my LGBT friends will have their rights eroded even more, and also the new president will annoint more christofascist Godkings to the Supreme Court ensuring that any attempt to vote for an actual leftist in the future is impossible, and it’ll be fine, because at least you didn’t vote for the guy that wouldn’t have done all that extra awful shit

A vote is not an endorsement, stop treating it like it is.

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Wow that all sounds awful. Biden should really try to win in order to prevent that.

I suggest he make himself more appealing by being anti-genocide.

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Yeah, he should, and if he doesn’t, you still have to vote for him anyway, because the alternative is necessarily worse.

It absolutely sucks that Democrats are able to make zero effort and get votes based solely on the fact that they aren’t Republicans, but that’s the way it is. Vote in primaries, fight to make Republicans adopt better policies so that Democrats have to react, and vote blue in November, because the alternative is half the people in the community we’re arguing in going to fucking jail for being trans.

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A vote is not an endorsement, stop treating it like it is.

it is an endorsement.

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I’m not asking you to. I asked if you truly think things will be better when you don’t?

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cool bud, then you’ll get someone who’s pro genocide anyway. what a difference you made.

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At least their conscience will be clean when our trans brothers and sisters are rounded up for extermination.

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Biden isn’t pro genocide, at least there is no evidence to say that. The Biden administration has been against the ground invasion from the start.

Biden has made some missteps in my opinion, but America pulling support for Israel was never a real option. Israel does require aid, but Netanyaho doesn’t care if that aid comes from the US, or from his buddy Putin. Israel realigning with Russia would put Palestine in an even worse position because it would threaten their support from Iran.

Then, of course, there is the risk of a regional war breaking out of Iran takes the strained relationship between the US and Israel as an opportunity. That could easily pull other countries in and become WW3.

Foreign policy is about more than just virtue signaling. It’s outcomes that matter, and what a lot of people are calling for will not get them the outcomes they are looking for.

Not that I’m shaming anyone for pressuring Biden. The positive movement on aid shipments was very likely helped along by the protest votes in Michigan.

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How would aligning with Russia would help Israel when the US locks every weapon they can lock?

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Israel does a lot of research and innovation for US technologies, including weapons. That would be of great value to Russia. I can’t speak as to what weapons the US can and can’t lock.

All of this is in a kind of unrealistic realm, because US support for Israel isn’t going anywhere.

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