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57 points

Overdue.

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81 points

Overdue, but still welcome. I’m gonna assume/pretend it was the less than stellar showing in Michigan that finally got to him.

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Maybe, but going against Isreal has been political suicide up until now. The more protests, the easier it makes deviating from unconditional support, which again, has been unbroken US policy since the beginning of Isreal.

Add to that how important our foothold in Isreal is to the US both militarily and economically (in the form of ensuring the safety of shipping down the seas), it’s a huge deal to go against Isreal.

So yeah, protests help give an excuse. It doesn’t mean it’s changed anyone’s minds on the morality of it all, but that it frees them to actually act on something previously untouchable.

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Israel’s popularity has been dropping like a hot rock since the age of social media. But this was even worse. 50% of Americans think Israel has gone too far and another 35% think it’s okay but they shouldn’t keep going. Israel really screwed up.

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Can you explain how Israel would help in ensuring the safety of shipping? I’d think their location doesn’t really make them much of an influence

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And, in a roundabout way, you can thank the Electoral College. Because if the popular vote was all that counted, he might decide that the 100k votes in Michigan were worth staying uncommitted so he could pick up the pro-Israel lobby elsewhere, like on Long Island and in NYC. But Biden is all but guaranteed to win NY, while Michigan is a toss-up.

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Florida also has a sizable Jewish population, but the former swing state has turned red from an influx of retirees over the past several election cycles.

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Damn that electoral college. Doing something good every so often.

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2 points

Only problem is that it does 99 bad things for every good thing

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I assume that threat is on the table at this point. If we blow our whole wad at once, we won’t be able to ratchet up the pressure each time we need to. Between letting Netanyahu’s political rivals meet with the US government and the VP speaking up now, too. The pattern of incremental pressure is pretty apparent. We don’t want to end up in a situation where we have no leverage left and the war continues.

Meanwhile, Trump is saying Israel should “finish the job” in Gaza.

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Yeah… that’s a cop out.

Israel and everyone else sees the blocking as tacit support. We could at least abstain. You know. Keep our mouths shut.

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I understand that it’s a really hard situation to navigate through. It’s not easy to just unilaterally go against a long term ally overnight. It’s a horrible situation that I’d hate to be in charge of.

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