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Life finds a way

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I hope **chrome **fails terribly. Just like Internet Explorer(IE). Firefox all the way

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Anyone still using Google products is a fuckin idiot, IMO

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OK, then let’s check my idiocy.

  • Web-browser? I’m using Firefox since the beginning of this year.

  • Email? I’ve an account on ProtonMail for serious stuff, and Gmail for garbage, less serious stuff and spam collector.

  • Cloud storage? Well, unless anyone can gift me a Raspberry Pi, a hub and an ELI5 Nextcloud manual for dummies, I have to keep using Google Drive.

  • Videos? That depends. I’m watching videos on Youtube, but I’m uploading my own content on Peertube.

  • Phone? I need another ELI5 custom rom manual for dummies, and it has to be specific for my device. Otherwise, I’ll keep using Android, but with most minimum usage of Google apps.

I think that’s all.

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I agree, as I reply on my pixel6 pro

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So basically every software/front-end web dev? Lol ok.

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Pixel phones.

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I’m sorry but this sentiment is so utterly detached from the technical capabilities and general engagement of the average layman that it bears a response.

Tech savvy people have this awful habit of calling anyone not in our specific field an idiot when they don’t do things our preferred way, and it’s not a good look. Those people aren’t the weird ones, we are. And if you’re the sort of person who thinks you’ve elevated yourself above the commoners because you don’t use Google’s stuff … yeah, that and 5 bucks will get you a latte. There are oceans of professional expertise you’re not privvy to, and unless you really think you’re doing better than everyone at everything, a little humility, temperance, and grace for others is warranted.

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So you don’t have an android phone I suppose?

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I just wish Firefox would improve their UI and add a few features without needing to rely on extensions (tab groups, vertical tabs, sharing tabs from mobile to desktop, etc.).

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Are we seriously sitting here, in the shadow of the open internet’s apocalypse, complaining yet again about Firefox’s UI?

It’s like Superman trying to rescue you from a fire and you complaining about his breath.

There’s no UI in the world that will make the internet bareable without functional ad blockers.

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I can send a tab from my mobile Firefox to my desktop Firefox by default, so that’s at least one of those that doesn’t need an extension.

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They do have the send tab to device feature. I send tabs to my son, who lives with his mom all the time.

As long as the devices are connected to the overall Mozilla account. Same between my phone Firefox and PC.

I don’t have too many tabs that I would group together, but I can see how nice of a feature that would be.

I’ve used Firefox from the beginning and never trusted Google and Chrome. It has gotten better, but at a slower route.

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Firefox already natively supports most of the features you listed.

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Hey you have genuine wants and needs from a web browser and I respect that.

I’ll say though that this sort of attitude (well Chrome has this little thing I like so I allow them to take control of what was once the independent internet) is what is going to screw us.

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Any tab group extension recommendations? Having issues finding good ones

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Mozilla I think gets millions from google. At least they did at one point in a deal to set google as a default engine.

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They do. The majority of Mozilla’s funding is from Google. That said, they’re still our best hope. I’m sure Firefox has constant internal conversations about how to handle their relationship with Google, and they probably have standing offers from many others to switch to a different search engine.

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Except when it doesn’t. That saying never made sense (far more species have gone extinct than exist today) and it doesn’t apply here.

Piracy will continue, obviously, but what we’re seeing here is the creation of an internet we can’t even fathom yet. This is just where it starts.

Also consider how much more difficult it will be for the average person to participate in piracy. Remember a few months back when Microsoft floated they were basically looking to lock down windows? No unsigned apps, no win32, etc. People will get around that, of course, but fewer people will. Especially if they continue with this trend towards stripping options and de-admin-ing all users unless they pay for an enterprise license.

Then there’s the dangerous trend toward encryption being broken by regulation and possibly even VPNs being rendered useless for anyone but businesses. There goes secure torrenting.

The trends don’t look good, across the board. We can’t just sit here and hope it all works out and the loopholes are found, like it always has before.

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I am by no means saying we should passively hope that things will work out. What I am saying is that we have no reason to be defeatist. In the same time that we’ve seen aggressive pushes for a more locked down internet, we’ve seen dozens of open source projects to fight back.

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It’s my right to have my personal computer display what I want it to display. It’s my right set my device to reject internet traffic I don’t want to receive. It’s my right to instruct my machine to download the data I want, and refuse to download the data I don’t want. If you make something publicly available online, then the public can consume that or refuse that, in part or in whole, as and when they wish. If a company or a browser wants to try and interfere with that, then they’ve chosen their fate.

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Monzo? Hmm

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