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Technically the only thing you’re allowed to fiddle with, while driving, is what you can operate from the steering wheel. You’re not supposed to fiddle with radio, AC etc. from the center console while driving even if it’s physical buttons.

I know people don’t drive like this, but you’re only allowed to take your hands off the steering wheel for changing gears if driving a manual, otherwise it’s two hands on there at all times…technically

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If you read the article this is specifically about things needed to operate the car. Radios and AC or whatever is fine, but car manufacturers are starting to move things actually needed like turn signals into touch controls, and that is not okay.

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55 points

Wait… what? What???

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76 points

Yeah, thank Tesla for that one. Because of course it was Tesla.

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7 points

Yes touch controls, but the comment I replied to mentioned touch screens (so usually the centre console), which only contains thing you don’t really need to manage while driving.

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The comment you replied to also specifically said “controls needed to operate a car.”

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Clarify allowed. Is it actually illegal in the EU to turn on the radio or air conditioning while driving unless the buttons allow you to do it from the steering wheel?

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18 points

Is it actually illegal in the EU

What’s allowed differs per country.

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13 points

It differs from country to country, but where I live you can technically be fined for it. You will also fail your drivers test if you do it.

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Where I live changing the AC is a task they can ask you while on the test.

If you do it dangerously such as swerving or taking your eyes off the road for extended periods then you can fail the test.

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1 point

What country is that?

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11 points

I’m more concerned about fog lights, emergency lights, and Window heating, as law usually requires you to be able to use them if conditions require it.

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18 points

This differ by countries. Here I’m required by law to operate the car as needed to operate it safely.

If the cloud vanish, I am allowed to put sunglasses, if I get vapor on my windshield I am allowed to push the button to remove it and so on.

But you have to do it safely and smartly. If you get in an accident that you would have been able to prevent otherwise, you may be found at fault. Even if you didn’t cause it.

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The wording is probably similar here, but very few critical systems are not controllable from the steering wheel.

Wipers, volume, AC, cruise control are all controlled from the steering wheel of modern cars, there’s really not anything you need to do from the centre console to drive safely. If it’s not a critical system, you shouldn’t be using it, physical buttons or not.

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27 points

I’ve never seen a car where you can adjust the AC from the wheel.

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6 points

Is there any place left for your hands? I have never, ever seen a car that is built like that.

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Hands on 10 and 2 while operating the 2 ton death trap!

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Phew im good then, my car weighs 1 ton so i can just drive with one hand right?

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6 points

The math checks out.

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1 point

Actually your hands are supposed to be at 9 and 3

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6 points

Didn’t Tesla put the wiper settings on the center console

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It’s always been a button on the left stalk at the steering wheel, and for quite a while wiper speed has been adjustable from the left scroll-button on the steering wheel as well.

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5 points

So if my windows fog over I shouldn’t be able to put the defrost on?

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3 points

You should have configured your AC before you started driving.

I haven’t had windows fog up during a drive spontaneously since forever ago when AC became standard in even cheap vehicles since they dry the air.

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6 points

You’ve never driven in a humid tunnel, or live in a place with changing weather do you?

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I’m driving. There is not a drop of rain in the sky. 2 hours into my drive it starts raining and my windows fog up. Your answer is I should have turned on the defrost before I left. Interesting. Against reason and human nature. But interesting.

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3 points

Technically, you know vehicles went 80 years without any steering controls? Buttons on the wheel still isn’t a requirement.

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Suspect it depends on where you live, but you’re not wrong.

I think I’ve driven a million kilometres by now, it’s all become so fucking boring and second nature, that you start really being sloppy and distracted. Because you gained so much experience, you start to (unconciously) overestimate your skills.

But the two hands thing really is necessary for if you hit something slippy or need to make an unexpected manoeuvre. The risks of driving are incredibly low, but if shit does hit the fan you’re in for a world of trouble if you’re doing something else.

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“allowed”? where do you live with such laws?

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