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73 points

Man I love using Firefox.

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This topic is a bit beyond me so I may have misunderstood but I think it’s not going to matter that you use Firefox if this goes ahead and gets widely adopted because it sounds like websites will request these trust tokens and if your browser isn’t forthcoming with one then they will assume you are a bot (or a user that blocks ads and is therefore one whose traffic does not benefit them). What happens then is unclear, do they not serve up the website? Do you get a degraded experience or different content? Do they just throw a lot of CAPTCHAs at you?

Sounds like they’re going to make life on the web a whole lot less convenient for folks that don’t want to use their new token system. But it’s totally voluntary though, no browser has to implement it.

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Yes it will affect you even if you use Firefox. If a lot of us still used Firefox, Google would not be able to do it as websites would not give up on a big chunk of their audience.

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I suspect the next step in the ongoing war between people who want to make websites unuseable and people who want to use websites is going to be some kind of spoofing method to keep browsing. Maybe your secure browser of choice runs a regular chrome instance as intended and then scrapes the non-add data from that process and presents it to you in an add free format.

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4 points

This might sound silly but assuming you are using firefox or even safari how will this proposal affect these browsers. Only thing I can currently think of is banking sites (on android) would force you to use chrome and check play integrity (safteynet) to block acess.

At the end of the day won’t this only affect people using Google chrome? (Forks of chrome, firefox, safari could by pass the issue)?

Sorry if I seem a bit ignorant

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14 points

Firefox could always spoof the standard to maintain compatibility.

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10 points

If it could be spoofed easily, wouldn’t that defeat the point?

I mean you can’t just “spoof” a ssl cert or private ssh key, I have to assume this is at least that good.

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1 point

Good point.

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3 points

Mozilla is working on their own v3, without a lot of the restrictions Google has added. I think you can already try out the relevant mode in Firefox.

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4 points

On Firefox Nightly looks like they have v3 enabled

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Yeah, as far as i understand, the browser needs to support the API. But firefox will implement it nonetheless after some protest, or no money from Google anymore.

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3 points

Pair it up with DDG + Protonmail and world will smile to you! 😄

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I prefer startpage or Qwant. Protonmail is great though!

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-15 points

Would love to use Firefox if it wasn’t so slow

Hope more developers give special support to the gecko engine

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9 points

I’m not sure how recently you’ve used it but I actually find chrome to be much more resource hungry. Maybe it’s worth a try again if you haven’t?

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9 points

Firefox really isn’t slow.

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2 points

Especially when its blocking all the ad bloat that chrome runs on… What in the fuck are these people smoking?

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8 points

lol Firefox + adblock beat Chrome any day.

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2 points

Firefox isn’t slow, you just want an excuse.

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