Editor’s Note: Bill McGuire is professor emeritus of geophysical & climate hazards at University College London and author of “Hothouse Earth: An Inhabitant’s Guide.”

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After COVID are we still doing the “I am an expert trust me” thing?

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After COVID are we still doing the “I’ll pretend this threat does not exist” thing?

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So you dont think people or groups wont use a problem for their gain?

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only if you have a sane reason to believe so

that was one of the arguments to dismiss covid back then and it was just vague ‘chinese conspiracy’ vibes

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No one is infallible.

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Sure, but when people with zero expertise are correct, and the experts (that we see on the news) are completely wrong, then its more than just being wrong.

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