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It’s just tired old linux elitism rearing its unwashed head again.

They can’t stand it when their bad behavior is called out as part of linux’s abysmal adoption rates, and they refuse to acknowledge the user hostility of the entire ecosystem.

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Exactly this. IMO, Linux won’t become widespread until it’s truly easy to use. Despite how they shit on Windows, I could count on one hand how many times I’ve needed to look up an issue I couldn’t solve myself. The same can’t be said for when I tried Ubuntu, which I had more issues with before I could even get it installed.

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Windows has gotten a lot better at fixing itself, but even back in the day when it didn’t, I was confident I could find the solution to any problem in a forum somewhere.

With my attempts at linux, maybe 1 in 5 problems had an answer somewhere, and then it was still another 1 in 5 chance that the solution wold work with my distro.

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and then it was still another 1 in 5 chance that the solution wold work with my distro.

So basically you copy-paste commands and expect them to work like some magic spells? I think I’ve estimated your level of expertise correctly in another comment.

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The issue is not with Linux not being easy to use. The issue is politics.
Most of the people use their PC for browsing. Throw Linux Mint or Ubuntu on the machine (that’s the hard part for casual users), press firmware install if your wifi is not working (connect Ethernet cable), press update prompt. That’s it.
You press on Firefox, you are on the Internet. THATS IT. I installed Mint on many old laptops. If you have problems, it’s because you are tinkering around with your system. That’s on you. Many casual users only use their browser.

I installed Mint and Ubuntu on many laptops. Elderly people I installed them for, never had any problems, even after me explicitly asking if they had any problems. Press power on, press Firefox, press power off.

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Glad it works for you, but I have no interest in an OS which considers anything besides using a web browser “tinkering with my system”.

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and they refuse to acknowledge the user hostility of the entire ecosystem.

Rather the community expels assholes saying that everything should change because they like it different. People have differing tastes in general.

I’ve switched knowing literally nothing and people have mostly been friendly.

Except for Arch users, but there’s not much sense in coming to their spaces - they are not only hostile, but also not very knowledgeable usually.

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Rather the community expels assholes saying that everything should change because they like it different.

No they don’t, they let them set up their own distro as an identity adornment.

I’ve switched knowing literally nothing and people have mostly been friendly.

That’s nice, I’ve tried to switch at least nine times now as a seasoned IT admin that has built and administered to a minimum of 50+ linux servers and every time I look for solutions in the community I only get snide ‘go read a manual before I deign to help you’ comments.

The way you think of Arch users is the way I think of nearly all linux users.

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That’s nice, I’ve tried to switch at least nine times now as a seasoned IT admin that has built and administered to a minimum of 50+ linux servers

Every time I see such an argument it means that the person using it probably overestimates their expertise. I tried to switch one time and switched. Knowing nothing.

I was 16 and I wasn’t computer-savvy. It was 12 years ago, Linux users on the Web these days love to talk how easier it’s become, in my opinion it’s become harder, but that’s off topic.

Or there may be necessities you can’t fulfill with Linux, but that’s not what you are claiming.

and every time I look for solutions in the community I only get snide ‘go read a manual before I deign to help you’ comments.

Give me a specific example. And of the tone of your question too - a community is not a drop-in replacement for paid support obviously, so if there was something of the “I need” kind, possibly with that “it’s the OS’ problem and not my hands” opinion in the package, those comments would be justified.

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