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I get that this is a contentious topic and I agree that Musk gets too much coverage, but…I strongly believe that people should be able to post whatever they want as long as it adheres to the community’s topic (technology) and adheres to the rules.

The arguement of, “I don’t wanna see {topic here} so stop posting about {topic here}” is a really slippery slope. Clearly there are quiet users here that DO actually want to hear about X news and DO want to dicuss it. What about topics that appeal to you, or like 20% of the community, but 80% couldn’t give a shit? Where is the line?

Realistically, this is on you. You don’t like it? Downvote and scroll past it. Want a perfectly curated source of news you care about? Use an RSS reader that offers topic filters. This is a community of diverse interests that may not always reflect yours. Deal with it, or go elsewhere.

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Politely disagree, in that I suspect this is a hypocritical sentiment. Most users who get off of Elon news will agree with this position now but then cry foul when this community is spammed with a subject not to their liking. And as much as the ideology of free speech (rightly) resonates, just like with free markets, some minimal regulation is needed in practice; otherwise some fanatics could choke this feed up with, I dunno, 99% Microsoft news, all the time, and you wouldn’t be able to say shit because you “strongly believe people should be able to post whatever they want”. I doubt that you would stand by your lofty convictions so strongly then.

Beyond that, there is nothing wrong with expressing a desire for more or less of something—it’s just an opinion. It’s a bullshit argument to say, “If you don’t like it, instead of articulating why, just use the limited non-descriptive tool provided to reduce your passionate sentiment into a trivial binary value and cast it into the sea of thousands just like it; or else, like, go create an entirely new community or a custom feed or whatever you want. But mainly, just fuck off.”

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Let me make this clear.

I don’t give a FLYING FUCK about Elon. I actively ignore any posts about him or his shitty empire. Stop using the behaviors of his idiot stans to argue with me. I am not them.

What I do care about is a community telling people what they can or cannot post, not through rules changes, not through mod action, but by agreeing internally to bully every person who dares to post what every tech publication is talking about.

I think you need to evaluate why you let this shit trigger you. I mean, this is like going to a coffee shop and raising a stink because they sell pumpkin spice lattes. Don’t consume it. Use Lemmy’s tools to filter it out if you really need to.

Its not the community’s job to cater to your specific content desires. This isn’t a news site. Its a place for people to talk about whatever they think technology is. It’s your job to moderate what you pay attention to.

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I didn’t see any proposals to ban them. If anything this post is about what little value they bring to the community.

But maybe it’s because I’d rather this community be more about technology and less about technology as it appears in the news.

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If i could wish one ability/skill, I would wish to have this person’s articulation skill

It’s your job to moderate what you pay attention to.

:Chefs-kiss:

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Funny enough I think it’s a hypocritical sentiment but on the other foot – users who are tired of this news are going to eventually find some news they are interested in, and then resist having it sequestered somewhere else.

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Your point is absolutely valid, but what’s happening at Twitter really is only relevant to social media news. There’s no tech changing or advancing, just a really bad marketing decision. I personally do not believe that this is tech news or relevant to it.

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I agree. It’s more political than technology related.

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Its either Business or Political not tech

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To be fair it’s a tech company though so it can impact those in the tech space. Generally it doesn’t but you know what I mean.

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It seems a lot of people here think that anyone who runs a Web site is a tech company.

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Go to any tech site, publication, podcast YouTuber, etc. All of them are talking about Twitter. Mainstream tech has agreed that Twitter / Facebook are tech.

Im not saying I agree. I’m not saying even that I care about these topics. I don’t. I think Musk is an idiot and actively avoid news about his BS. But clearly a lot of people do care and a lot of people agree that Twitter is tech.

If this community wants to specify a definition of tech that differs from the mainstream, then they need to put it in the rules and accept that we need to control the acceptable conversation because certain members of the community are getting triggered by having to scroll past posts related to Musk or his properties.

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they… do? it’s like the “what is art” debate. the answer is “whatever you want it to mean in that moment and it can be different in the next moment”

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That’s an even bigger contentious debate. And the fact that there is no one mutually agreed on answer means we either need a formal definition in the rules or the people in this community need to understand that there are people that exist with a broader or narrower definition of technology than they have.

That said, like it or not, go to any major tech blog, podcast, YouTuber, and they all talking about X / Twitter. The tech communities outside of Lemmy have all agreed that Twitter / X is technology. And Lemmy doesn’t live in a bubble.

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The tech communities outside of Lemmy have all agreed that Twitter / X is technology.

This is an “appeal to authority” logical fallacy.

Personally I think an argument that “Twitter / X is technology” is a very, very difficult argument to make. It’s a social media company. Is every company that has a website “tech”?

It’s also a generalisation. Perhaps if twitter invented a new decentralised database that might be “tech”, but marketing decisions are not.

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anything including and beyond hitting a nut with a rock to open it

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I think it would help define it or give examples of what it is or isn’t intended to include. Should it include biotech, materials tech, or is it limited to computers, Internet, AI? Or…?

Technology to me includes things like papyrus and typewriters and the above and much more. But what I expect to see in a technology community is narrower than that.

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Typewriters are technology, but information about what color of shoes is being worn by the guy who bought the typewriter patent from its inventor isn’t technology.

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What rss reader are you using? I’ve been using feeder and have like it so far. Also have freshRSS running but don’t use it so much

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I’ve tried so many and I’m always on the hunt for better ones. I wss on Pallabre until it went abandonware. Currently on inoreader but still hunting.

Problem is that I want something that can easily sync my feed and subscriptions across devices, but the ones that support that compromise in other areas. I might need to just settle for good import/export functionality. But Inoreader works for me for now.

But the nice thing is there are a ton of RSS apps out there. So, theres bound to be something for everyone.

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