From the article: “About a decade ago, Tesla rigged the dashboard readouts in its electric cars to provide “rosy” projections of how far owners can drive before needing to recharge, a source told Reuters. The automaker last year became so inundated with driving-range complaints that it created a special team to cancel owners’ service appointments.

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Lithium mining is very bad for the planet. ICEs are bad, but battery EVs are also horrible.

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The solution is trains

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For most people, including most city dwellers, trains are indeed the correct solution.

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US rural settlements were built on train lines before cars destroyed that.

For most long range travel, trains are the solution.

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What happens to lithium after it’s mined? What happens to oil after it’s mined?

There’s no comparing how much worse ICEs are compared to EVs.

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The problem is no what happens to lithium afterwards. The problem is what the environmental cost of getting the lithium out of the earth.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/14/electric-cost-lithium-mining-decarbonasation-salt-flats-chile

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But once it’s out, it’s out. It can then be recycled and reused “forever”.

You extract oil once and burn it once; then that carbon is stuck in the atmosphere “forever”. Now you have to extract more oil and do it all over again.

That’s the big difference, EVs don’t consume lithium; they borrow it.

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