Julia, 21, has received fake nude photos of herself generated by artificial intelligence. The phenomenon is exploding.

“I’d already heard about deepfakes and deepnudes (…) but I wasn’t really aware of it until it happened to me. It was a slightly anecdotal event that happened in other people’s lives, but it wouldn’t happen in mine”, thought Julia, a 21-year-old Belgian marketing student and semi-professional model.

At the end of September 2023, she received an email from an anonymous author. Subject: "Realistic? “We wonder which photo would best resemble you”, she reads.

Attached were five photos of her.

In the original content, posted on her social networks, Julia poses dressed. In front of her eyes are the same photos. Only this time, Julia is completely naked.

Julia has never posed naked. She never took these photos. The Belgian model realises that she has been the victim of a deepfake.

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I seriously don’t get why society cares if there are photos of anyone’s private parts.

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I think we as a society are too uptight about nudity, but that doesn’t mean that creating pictures of people without their consent, which make them feel uncomfortable, is in any way OK.

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What about photos of politics in compromising situations? Should we have them without their consent?

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I imagine those people are humiliated.

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They are humiliated only because society has fed them the idea that what they’ve done (in this case not done but happened to them) is wrong. Internalizing shame meted out by society is the real psychological problem we need to fix.

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Society does indeed play a big role, but if someone went around telling lies about you that everyone believed regardless of how much you denied it, that would take a toll on you.

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That’s what I meant. Why should it be shameful? If it weren’t, those photos would lose so much of their harm.

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Who are you tell people how they ought to feel? The desire for privacy is perfectly normal and you are the one trying to shame people for not wanting naked pictures of themselves everywhere.

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I think the issue is that there is sexual imagery of the person being created and shared without that persons consent.

It’s akin to taking nude photos of someone without their consent, or sharing nude photos with someone other than their intended audience.

Even if there were no stigma attached to nudes, that doesn’t mean someone would their nudes to exist or be shared.

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I’ll continue this conversation in good faith only after you’ve shown us yours to prove your position.

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Right??? I send strangers pictures of mine all the time!!

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Modern surveillance capitalism has made sharing of private data normalised. These days we are very used to sharing pretty much everything about ourselves, in addition to having no control over how that information is used. That is a bad thing.

I suspect that these tools will, similarly, make nudity a bit more normalised in many societies across the world. That is probably a good thing overall.

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What you mean to say is that non consensual nude pictures of women will be normalised and you’re ok with that. Sexual assault and domestic violence are also pretty common, you want to normalise those too?

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In my opinion, an eventual loss of prudishness is just a silver lining on the cloud of surveillance capitalism.

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Yes, no and no.

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