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Anyone to the left of the DNC leadership: constructively criticizes Joe Biden

Biden stans: You love Trump, donā€™t you?

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On the other side of this, what I find really common is anyone who acknowledges the reality of how the US voting structure works is seen as a Biden Stan

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ā€œHey maybe we should just elect the most popular candidate instead of potentially not electing the most popular candidateā€

ā€œHAHA LOOK AT THE LIBTARDā€

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First of all: least unpopular. Neither of them are very popular and most people would prefer that neither of them were amongst the two options.

Second, valid criticism ā‰  voting against, not voting or telling anyone to do either.

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Nothing wrong about acknowledging the reality of the system being a broken dichotomy, of course.

Iā€™m talking about the people who shut down all valid criticism with the ā€œbut Trump is worseā€ whataboutism or ā€œstop giving Trump ammunitionā€ as if anyone sane didnā€™t already know Trump is awful and as if the Mango Mussolini wouldnā€™t just make shit up regardlessā€¦

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Thatā€™s completely fair critism is a healthy part of democracy.

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If you think voting the DNC will fix anything YOU donā€™t understand how the US voting structure works

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I donā€™t think that.

What do YOU think will work?

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Eating wonā€™t fix cancer, so donā€™t bother.

My guy: sometimes you do things to prevent new problems. Making nothing better still beats making everything worse.

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Thatā€™s because itā€™s a common argument of Biden stans. Itā€™s pretty telling that they canā€™t think of anything good to say about their candidate, so instead itā€™s this stuff.

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Thereā€™s a lot of good and bad.

Bad - Supporting Israel financially, forcing the rail workers back to work from their strike, his environmental policies seem half hearted.

Good - Forgiving large amounts of student loan debt, having his cabinet work with the DEA at reclassifing weed while promoting the idea publically, putting billions into Urban reconstruction to help cities become less dependent on roads and more accessible for the least fortunate.

Itā€™s more nuanced than heā€™s great or awful. Heā€™s just better. As it often ends up coming to in American politics.

As an aside I long for multi choice voting.

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Yeah, but people also have blinders as to how the actual voting structure works. If youā€™re in CA/NY for dems or AL/MS for repubs, your vote basically doesnā€™t matter since those places will go blue/red no matter what, so youā€™re 100% free to vote for the person/platform you actually like! Any insinuation that you might vote for someone other than Biden is met with immediate scorn and ridicule.

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Not to detail this but that is a new one for me. What is a Stan?

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an incredibly obsessed fan, usually to an unhealthy degree, but often used ironically to just mean ā€œbig fanā€. named after the character stan from the eminem song stan.

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Itā€™s basically a synonym for simp.

ā€œan overzealous or obsessive fan of a particular person or thingā€

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Have you ever heard the Eminem song stan?

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