“There’s this wild disconnect between what people are experiencing and what economists are experiencing,” says Nikki Cimino, a recruiter in Denver.

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Her mortgage is $1650/mo, which is incredibly reasonable in Denver. I think this specific person’s problems have more to do with her recent divorce. She was used to splitting costs, and probably spent quite a bit on the divorce itself

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She’s paying $1650 for a house? You’d pay more for a house in a neighborhood where every night is the purge here.

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That’s supply and demand, for you.

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It’s always been pretty interesting to me how crazy the price of living changes. $1650 a month for a house seems insane to me.

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$1650/mo for a mortgage in Denver, CO at 5.25% interest is a fantastic price. You’re going to find it can be a lot less in a lot of places in the US, but not in highly desirable major metropolitan areas

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lol i’m looking at paying ~4500/mo for a 3br 2ba ~1300sqft.

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4 points

That is absolutely ridiculous

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You must be in an area like SF or NYC. Or this is a luxury space.

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At a certain point - isn’t it just cheaper to move to a cheaper area?

Not that it’s easy. It’s what I had to do. 6 hours away from friends/family.

Wages took a 25% hit. Bills took a >50% hit so came up on top.

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In order to keep your mortgage at 1/3 your income, you would need to be making $700,000/yr.

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…that’s more than I’d make with minimum wage in my state, which I don’t think is that far behind colorado. Yikes.

ETA: ok nvm I did math and if you make a little over $10/hr 40 hrs a week, your entire paycheck would go just toward that.

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You’re still off unfortunately.

Full time at $10/hr is $1600/month before income tax. For simplicity, we’ll say federal+state tax is 15% so now we’re at $1360. Social security is 6.2% so take away another $100.

Then, of course, this is the United States where most people have to rely on their employees for “affordable” health insurance - and often still have money taken out of their check for it.

So now we’re at $1000-1260 monthly take home pay for a full time job at $10/hr

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“affordable” health insurance

At that income, you would qualify for Medicaid.

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The standard deduction is $13850 so there’s no way you’re paying 15% tax on an income of $20,000

You’re paying about a little over $600 federal plus whatever state tax and usually state tax is less than federal, but depends on the state. In some states you don’t pay state income taxes.

So best case scenario you pay a little over 3% federal and no state.

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Someone making minimum wage is unfortunately not likely to be getting a mortgage.

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$1650/mo hopefully includes taxes and homeowners insurance

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Yes, mortgages include an escrow payment for these

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I pay more than $2k for a 1-bed apartment in Seattle. Would love that rate for sure.

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As someone with mortage of 520€/month there’s nothing reasonable in what she’s paying. I don’t care if it comes with 6 bedrooms, a maid, cook, gardener and a chauffeur - I’m not paying that. I’m more than fine in my tiny granny cottage on the outskirts of a middle sized city.

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You couldn’t rent a shack that had a floor made of perpetual dirty needles for $520/month near me.

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