does art belong to everyone or not?
i think you shouldn’t get to opt out of the remix machine but the corporations shouldn’t be able to exploit it for profit exist. Having your work not become part of the commons is the same shit as a century of copyright. Anything we do about these generative models that allows corpos to continue to use them is a bandaid at best.
Well I disagree. You should have a fundamental right to opt out of these things. Even in a perfect world where everything is just and every artist can support themselves, I see no reason it shouldn’t require the creator’s consent. Surely, with no financial pressures to corrupt things, many creatives would willingly contribute to these models, and we wouldn’t need to resort to this ugly, non-consensual scraping.
so i should be able to prevent my shit from entering the public domain? how is that different than the mouse?
I just think, fundamentally, there should be some level of control the artist has over these things. You asked me earlier if art should “belong to everyone”, and I guess I don’t think it should, at least not fully or without restriction. I’m not against stuff like fanart and fanfiction and things like that, not in the slightest, but the idea of having my work taken in that way, mechanistically, even in a non-artistic context, like the conversation we’re having right now, feels so thoroughly violating that I just can’t support it. It feels like in the minds of a lot of people, the only option an artist should have to avoid these things, to avoid being scraped, is to seclude themselves, or at least their work, and to completely shut people off from experiencing it. I don’t want that, but I don’t want to be scraped either. Is it so strange? Am I really the weird one for wanting a middle ground, where the humans are allowed to see me and the AI isn’t?
