A New York appeals court on Monday agreed to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump’s $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.

If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing his assets while he appeals.

Delay. Delay. Delay.

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5 days ago I was downvoted for saying this would happen. Yet here we are.

Expect this judgement to get appealed and tossed completely. They can’t do it all in one go as that’s too obvious. Doing a slow roll. Randomly extending the deadline and slashing the bond amount is just the first step. Expect more. Each time easing up even more on Trump.

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49 points

We’re all just clinging on to the last sheds of hope in order to not fall into the endless pit of despair.

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I don’t really have any faith in the court system anymore. Why should anyone? They control neither the purse nor the sword, and yet unqualified political stooges can dictate policy.

Imagine if we did the same for engineers or doctors. “Hey, my completely unqualified buddy gets to design a bridge, and if it falls down and kills people it is their fault!” It’s ridiculous.

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There’s no reason to toss the judgement and the appeals court is a NY State Court. Every single judge has been appointed by a Democratic Governor.

The Court of Appeals consists of seven judges: the Chief Judge and six associate judges who are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the state senate to 14-year terms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Court_of_Appeals

There are no legal problems with the case against Trump, and his lying about property values is well documented. They are definitely not going to vacate the judgement.

Your doomer comment makes no sense. This dude is currently fucked. He has to pay $175 million in 10 days, and the rest when the appeals court boots the case. This is clearly bad for him. He should get it over with (if he can), stay out of court, and campaign for president. There’s so many court cases coming that he will have to cancel his rallies, because of time and money constraints.

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There are no legal problems with the case against Trump, and his lying about property values is well documented. They are definitely not going to vacate the judgement.

How many times have we heard this already? “They’re not going to do the thing. If they do the thing, that’s just a bridge too far even for them. Not even they will do the thing to protect Trump.”

Courts: does the thing. Lawmakers: do the thing. GOP voters: do the thing. Trump: gets away with it.

Everyone else: Surprisedpicachu.jpg

Trump is facing 91 counts in four criminal trials:

  • A hush money case where Trump is in little legal peril, is based on shaky legal theory, and puts him at no political risk. And the DA has already caused two delays with their handling of their own evidence.

  • A RICO Case in Georgia, by far the most important criminal case in the country and easily the most important case in Fani Willis’ career, and she throws the entire case into jeopardy because she cannot keep her personal and professional life separate. (I am not admonishing her for her personal life choices or actions, but when you have a case of this importance to both the nation and your personal career against this defendant, then you should be doing nothing to even give yourself a sniff of conflict of interest, impropriety, or ethics concerns.)

  • A stolen documents case in Florida being overseen by a judge who was appointed by Trump, has already repeatedly overstepped her authority to run interference for Trump, has deferred to Trump at every step of the case so far, and has openly stated her intentions to dismiss the case after jury selection has begun so double jeopardy attaches and the dismissal can’t be appealed.

  • A Jan6 case in DC that is currently on indefinite hold while the Supreme Court (3 of which were appointed by Trump himself) decides to wait a couple of months before ruling on whether or not Trump is an absolute dictator that is above the law and I wish I were making that up.

Where’s the accountability? And when (not if, when) the $464m award gets tossed out because fuck you thats why, will you continue to believe Trump will ever be held accountable for his actions? Because we have 8 years and counting of history to show that the answer to that question is “No”, and those who are responsible for that accountability seem gleefully willing to bend over backwards to avoid giving it to him.

Until the day I see either Trump or Mar-A-Lago slapped behind a padlock, I will continue to refuse to believe he will ever be held to account.

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8 points

8 years and counting? More like 77 and counting

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Your doomer comment makes no sense. This dude is currently fucked. He has to pay $175 million in 10 days

He was supposed to have had to pay ~$500 million today, yet a judge appointed by a Democratic Governor gave him special treatment yet again.

Frankly, your unfounded optimism makes no sense.

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He still has to pay the whole judgment. This is just the bond ahead of the appeal.

I believe the law was changed recently to prevent people from appealing and delaying the judgment. So a few years ago, he wouldn’t have had to pay anything right now.

There’s no way property would have been seized and sold by the end of today anyway. So getting $175 million in cash now and $280 million in property in a month is almost the same.

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He has to pay $175M in 10 days. For now. That could get extended. Or reduced. Or both. No reason to assume he’ll be held to that now. All evidence points to it being reduced or extended again.

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What evidence? The judges on the NY State Court of Appeals are all appointed by Democrats. More than that, he personally insults judges, making him not a sympathetic defendant to them.

They are tolerating him so that he has no avenues for appeal to the NY State Supreme Court. That’s exactly what Judge Engoron did in this case. Stop being a doomer and take the win.

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No he doesn’t.

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