Ms. Soussana, 40, is the first Israeli to speak publicly about being sexually assaulted during captivity after the Hamas-led raid on southern Israel. In her interviews with The Times, conducted mostly in English, she provided extensive details of sexual and other violence she suffered during a 55-day ordeal.

Ms. Soussana’s personal account of her experience in captivity is consistent with what she told two doctors and a social worker less than 24 hours after she was freed on Nov. 30. Their reports about her account state the nature of the sexual act; The Times agreed not to disclose the specifics.

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For months, Hamas and its supporters have denied that its members sexually abused people in captivity or during the Oct. 7 terrorist attack. This month, a United Nations report said that there was “clear and convincing information” that some hostages had suffered sexual violence and there were “reasonable grounds” to believe sexual violence occurred during the raid, while acknowledging the “challenges and limitations” of examining the issue.

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NYT is such an serious outlet. They NEVER lied about things. They never lied about Gaddafi, Hussein, Assad, Putin, WMDs, war on terror, war on drugs, China, Venezuela, Nicarágua, México, Jamaica, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, Julian Assange, Snowden. Never!

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So much for “believe victims”.

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I guarantee some of these deniers were saying “believe all women” or “believe all victims” before.

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Believe all unless they’re Israeli. As said by many comments here…

If Gaza goes on a massive offensive and bombs the shit out of Israel, these people will celebrate it and claim they deserve it.

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We also don’t call Nazis victims when they face retaliation for their crimes against humanity either.

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We also generally don’t condone retaliation against civilians for the actions of the government. We didn’t punish all Germans for what the Nazis did. Let’s not punish civilians for what Israel’s doing.

Otherwise? You’re closer to those Nazis than not.

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Okay I see what you mean but while I’d like them to be lying as much as the next person this one is pretty damning.

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True. This time they are not doing war propaganda. Because they never do

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